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I don't consider a PC solution a receiver.  It is fine for some folks but many just want to sit in front of the TV turn on their receiver with the remote and watch TV.  

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Nothings easier than picking up a remote and turning on a receiver to watch satellite.  That's the easy way.  [smile]

PC solutions aren't for everybody.

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Nothings easier than picking up a remote and turning on a receiver to watch satellite.  That's the easy way.  [smile]

As long as you're talking satellite DVB, as opposed to using a cableco's digital box or an OTA tuner built into the TV, absolutely. [biggrin]

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PC solutions aren't for everybody.

Affirmative. I have over 20 fully functional PCs, most with vacant PCI and/or PCIe slots. Yet, all 6 of my DVB tuners are in STBs. My 5 newest came from Rick. [smile]

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That NPR engineer buddy of mine is getting back into his FTA options once he retires in about 5 years. Over the years he’s picked up some receivers that looked good at the time but have become obsolete. I’m helping him sort thru the problems so when he starts back into this he’ll be better informed.

Here’s what he has in order of acquisition: Viewsat PVR 7000, Viewsat VS Pro, I-Link HD IS-9500. All have only the QPSK tuner. The I-Link is listed as HD because it has an ATSC tuner for cable and an HDMI output … but that’s not what we on this site would call useful HD. Far better options available now. Your past guidance will be our launching pad.

In my collection of info for him I have a few questions. Some of the answers will be real obvious to many of you.

Is DVB-S2 the same as allowing MPEG-4 which is required for HD? Is the DVB-S2 tuner the same as the 8PSK module? How much is 4:2:2 video being used these days? With CBS scrambling its football I see fewer occasions. Neither Viewsat nor I-Link has its own forum on this site. Blind scan ease is a factor. As for dish choice, how many of you get by with 3’ pie pan? Good only for Ku? We know he’ll need linear LNBs. I use all of my 10’ BUD to get what I want.

I’m holding off on my report until I understand more. Thanks.


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1. MPEG4 is not a requirement for HD.
All your local OTA stations use MPEG2, and all your major networks carried OTA are in HD.

2. DVB-S2 delivery system is not a requirement for MPEG4. Advantageous to the
broadcaster for sure, but not a "requirement".
Case in point, NASA mux on 127W uses MPEG4, and carries a 4K (H.265) feed as well.
But, the delivery System is DVB-S / QPSK

3.) Having said all that. is like splitting hairs...
I am sure you already have, but tell your friend to toss his old receivers, and get something new.
Or he will be missing out on quite a bit of the variety.
If he doesn't want to now, that's fine too. He will figure it out on his own, sooner or later.

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Thanks for that, majortom. It helps to understand the technology. As an engineer he’s interested in the nuts & bolts as well as the use. I’m trying to lay a foundation for his own research. He knows some of this stuff but not as much as people here.

Looking for guidance on blind scans, 4:2:2 and dish size. He's got a big yard in the country so location isn't an issue. I like having my BUD visible thru the living room window for eyeballing - tho not all of us have this option.

His retirement is still some time away but our conversations make him want to start this hobby sooner.


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I'm thinking about getting a IP unit, could someone with a Icecrpt 3750 and a Linkbox 9000i tell me if you can manually input PIDs and if you don't mind what one is more sensitive to 16apsk?Thanks my friends,Steve
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They are both good on 16APSK signals.  You can't edit the PIDs with either one using the remote and would have to use an editor.  

I know you can edit PIDs using the Ali Editor for the Linkbox 9000i.  I don't see that choice in the Spark Editor for the Icecrypt 3750, but you can do it if you use Enigma2 and the appropriate editor for it.  Editing PIDs is something you rarely need to do anymore so to me it isn't that critical of feature but I like having that ability with the remote.  The support from Icecrypt is very good so there is a possibility that could be addressed.  

I tend to use my Icecrypt 3750 more than my Linkbox 9000i.  The Icecrypt has a much better blind scan, better picture quality, and keeps good time which is critical if your doing timer recordings.

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Thanks EMiNJ,I was kinda leaning to Ice.PID editing is no big deal,I just need a good pickup on16apsk,is the IP part of it easy to run?....Thanks my friend Steve
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I never really use the IP stuff much in both of them.  You can load a customized m3u list in both.  They both have YouTube but the Icecrypt has more online features like an Opera Web Browser and more.  Plus with the Icecrypt 3750 you can watch a channel remotely on your network through a Web Browser which is a nice feature.

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So all the spark chanal/sat. editing is done with the recover not a desk top computer?.. With the front or rear USB ?...Thanks
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You can change the pids in the transponder section of the Linkbox 9000i, however, I have not found a way to add ac-3 on  that screen.  Jess out in California
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So all the spark chanal/sat. editing is done with the recover not a desk top computer?.. With the front or rear USB ?...Thanks


You can edit satellite names in Spark through the receiver using the remote or by using the PC editor.  You can also change channel names both ways as well.

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I don't have an IceCrypt 3750 receiver to check this but on the Amiko Spark-based receivers you can use an .XML editor on the exported database files to change anything (or everything) about the satellite, transponders, or programs. I typically export the database to a network drive and make a copy in case something goes wrong and I need to reload the original. I edit the copy, and load the edited database back into the receiver from the network drive.

Using the xml editor is much quicker for me.

It should be the same or very similar for the Icecrypt 3750.

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Yes you can also use an XML editor for the Icecrypt 3750.  It is basically as you mentioned grab the xml files from the receiver by usb, edit the xml file, and load it back into the receiver by usb.  

It is always recommended to back up your file before doing any changes.  Unfortunately many forget to do this.

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