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HI im new at this. i would like to try a usb or a pci card in my pc to run my satellite with.  which usb or tv card  is better the usb or a pci tv card. at a good price not to hi. im running windows 10. will thay work with windows 10 and i like it to do 4:2:2    any help would be appreciated.thanks.  have a 10 foot umimush bud with c & ku band   ..........my cp processor is 755 dualcore 2.50 GHZ......memory ddr 2--- 8 GB--system type 64 BIT-----ati redeon HD 4200---700 GB hard drive   let me no if this video card is ok for this i have outher cps .....
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Simple question, but no such simple answers...
the choice of card really has no bearing on 4:2:2, since the card itself isn't doing any decoding.
The computer is... so it's more important..
The card is just doing demodulation of the signal, providing packets to the computer.
The computer and software is doing the rest from that point on.
What type of computer do you have now, and do you anticipate it being replaced anytime?
If I wanted to use it with a laptop, or port it around to other computers from time to time,
I would get a USB based tuner.
If I knew it was never going to be used with a laptop or never get moved around to another computer,
I would get a PCI or PCIe based card. Choice of PCi / PCie would be dependent on the computer.
Personally, I have never even had a suitable desktop computer in the house, so I have always used USB based tuners.

I think your choice really boils down to how much ya wanna spend. There are two camps of thought...
There is the I want the "potential" to receive every type of signal in the sky, spare no expense camp.
Then there is the I just wanna be able to get most video feeds I might be capable of receiving, given my
antenna, and just wanna get my feet wet camp..

Example: My 7.5' antenna is never going to be capable of receiving very many signals using 16 APSK / 32APSK modulation,
so there is no point in spending a ton of cash on a device I will never be able to take full advantage of.
Therefore I am still in the "get my feet wet camp".

Of the cards that Rick sells, I would try a Prof 8000 (available PCIe slot required) if I had a Desktop and was in the get my feet wet camp.
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AFAIK TBS devices all work in win10. There is a thread in this section explaining that the Prof devices require a slight registry edit to work in win10.

USB and PCI/PCIe devices perform equally well. 

Sticking point with 4:2:2 is there is no hardware assisted decoding available from your graphics processor so the computer CPU has to be fast enough to do the decoding. For 1080 h.264 4:2:2 like CBS now uses you'll need at least a higher end speedy dual core processor or a quad core.
for example I have a dual core Intel E6750 2.66 Ghz in one machine that works OK. In another machine I have a J1900 quad core 2 Ghz that also works fine.
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AFAIK TBS devices all work in win10. There is a thread in this section explaining that the Prof devices require a slight registry edit to work in win10.

USB and PCI/PCIe devices perform equally well. 

Sticking point with 4:2:2 is there is no hardware assisted decoding available from your graphics processor so the computer CPU has to be fast enough to do the decoding. For 1080 h.264 4:2:2 like CBS now uses you'll need at least a higher end speedy dual core processor or a quad core.
for example I have a dual core Intel E6750 2.66 Ghz in one machine that works OK. In another machine I have a J1900 quad core 2 Ghz that also works fine.


Not meaning to hijack thread,but wondering if ur using a USB Receiver and whch one? Also what graphic card u have in the E6750 PC?
Any info appreciated!

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I have a TBS 5980 USB and a Prof 7301 PCI.  I like both. The E6750 machine has a GT 210 video card.
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a little off-topic, I'm wondering what the linux folks are using for a usb option?


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Kernel: 4.6.0-rc2+ x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: MATE 1.16.0  Distro: Ubuntu 16.04 xenial
CPU [biggrin]ual core Intel Core2 Duo E7500

Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF119 [GeForce GT 610] 

DVB : Skystar 2 xpress HD , solid like the rock (made in germany ) .

Software : VDR , enigma2pc from crazycat with multistream support .

No problem with linux .No freeze , No crash,  stability and quality guaranteed


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The TBS USB devices all work in linux.  I'm not sure if there are any USB devices in current production that would not work. Very few if any historically that did not work in linux.  Not all drivers are in the mainline kernel. It may be necessary to install a driver from some devices.   This is the case with my TBS5980. 

I use linux for everything. TvHeadend server controls the DVB device  and streams over the network to Kodi or other media players.
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.my cp processor is  AMD 755 dualcore 2.50 GHZ......memory ddr 2--- 8 GB--system type 64 BIT-----ati redeon HD 4200---700 GB hard drive   let me no if this will work with a tbs card ...
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I have a TBS 5980 USB and a Prof 7301 PCI.  I like both. The E6750 machine has a GT 210 video card.


Well,just ordered 2 E8600 Core 2 Duo CPU's @ 3.3 Ghz & 6 mb Cache to upgrade 2 Vostra 200's that have E2140 1.6 CPU's,for a measley $17.00 Shipped !
Have GT730 graphics card.Belive i will see a BIG IMPROVEMENT ........ LOL !

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I have old test PC box with single-core Athlon 3200+ S939 + NForce4 chipset + 1.5Gb DDR400 RAM + NVidia GF8600 GPU - work ok with latest TBS devices like TBS 6903/5/8 PCI-E or 5927 USB + 32-bit WinXP or Linux 32-bit. So not need ultra-power PC, just stable I/O interfaces + stable OS/drivers.
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I have old test PC box with single-core Athlon 3200+ S939 + NForce4 chipset + 1.5Gb DDR400 RAM + NVidia GF8600 GPU - work ok with latest TBS devices like TBS 6903/5/8 PCI-E or 5927 USB + 32-bit WinXP or Linux 32-bit. So not need ultra-power PC, just stable I/O interfaces + stable OS/drivers.


Thanks for the info.Was wondering about the athlons.Have several X2's,4800+,3800's,etc. In fact got PC's stacked in living room,bedroom,storage trailor,yeah PC Nut & Sat Nut in One !

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The E6750 2.66Ghz runs in the 50-60% range playing CBS h.264 4:2:2.  The AMD dual 2.5 scores a fair bit lower than that CPU, but I would think it should do the trick still.
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