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rrob311

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My Coolsat 8000 has a couple issues. It will not find anything on the OTA tuner. I know I have a good signal. The scan menu tells you to manually enter the frequency to scan for channels instead of knowing what is VHF, UHF etc.

Also, when I try to enter the 3800H 31250 SR transponder on 91w it basically shuts off the tuner and I lose the green and blue bars completely and then nothing will come in on any of the satellites. I have to turn off the main switch in the back to get it to work again.

I bought this receiver used and am not sure what firmware it has. I am also clueless on how to save my channel list if I have to change the firmware.

S/W version says 12.05.3F
H/W version 1.00.00
Model ID h600c146
bluzee

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3800H 31250 SR transponder on 91w


That is S2 right?  Coolsat seems to have a limit of 30000 SR for S2.  I get the exact same thing with my firmware version 1440A.  I think it may be limitation of the tuner chip itself.  There is newer firmware available that I have never tried though.  The "F"  at the end of your S/W version means it was one that included software to pirate satellite TV.  I believe they generally worked better and incorporated more bug fixes than the "A" firmware versions which did not have pirate software included.  1440A works well enough I've never bothered trying an upgrade.

No OTA within 500Km of here so can't help with that.

There was/is software that could connect via a null modem serial cable that probably would let you copy the channels data to a computer. I don't have a cable like that and have never had my 8000 connected so I can't say if it's possible to back up and restore a channels list by that method. 
rrob311

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Cool. I have a null modem cable but not sure how to set it up. I was going to attempt to edit the channels once I get the file out.
bluzee

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There is no channel editor for the 8000.  Unless you are a wizard with a hex editor.... 

I think Iceberg had the CS8000 software posted on satguys  forum somewhere.
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My 8100 can't get over 30000 S2 properly it pukes out. You have to play with freq and step numbers to get the OTA to scan properly. It can be done, I get all my locals.
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I never realized that the 8100/8000 had an SR limit on 8PSK.  I wonder if it's really an SR limit, or possibly related to the DCII nature of those 31250 transponders?  I can't think of any other S2 transponders greater than 30000 to try, except for those 33000 data transponders, but I think they are all VCM mode. 


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All I can say for certain is I've never managed to get S2 to work with anything higher than 30000 SR in my CS8000.  Try to tune it and you have to do a hard reset with the power switch on the back before it'll tune anything again.  Same transponder in the Prof is no problem what so ever.
rrob311

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Cool so my box isn't busted. As soon as I figure out how to pull the channel file I am going to try the octagon channel editor and see if it will load.
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the best way i have found is to have 2 receivers and that way when one lose all its channels i can reload it from the other receiver..  null modem ...oh and they will loose their mind count on it.  there is an editor think it is homesat the puter i have it on is dead right now so im not much help editor not user friendly RS232 cable .  
the ota tuner is a bit deaf , but I have found if you know the frequency you can play up and down wait for good signal day.. I get all My local Channels and can record them I have the 8100 PVR.

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For me, the OTA ATSC worked fine.  I only have about 3 OTA channels here, so it only took me a minute to program them all in via their freq.  It was just as sensitive as any of my other ATSC receivers/TVs. 

Re the >30000 SR on S2, when I tried it yesterday, it didn't lock up the receiver or anything, it just simply didn't lock on that transponder, but did lock fine when I switched to other transponders on the sat.  I haven't really used the 8100 since those 31250 transponders appeared, so I had never noticed that I couldn't lock them.


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On the OTA side I start with 189000 for low and 857000 on high with a 6mhz step.
It takes a while. If you have time watch the scan because some may show great sig and q but not scan in. Write down those freqs and try to scan them manually.
Having a a nice big out door antenna you can rotate is a bonus. 45* can make a big difference vs 90* when splitting the compass. A good scan here in Indy gets 30+ channels.              
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Is that with the 2025A firmware?   Noticed the new h.264 CW Plus channels make my 8000 reboot now too.  Usually will only do it once though, so not as bad as the old NBC SD h.264 which made it reboot every few minutes.
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On the OTA side I start with 189000 for low and 857000 on high with a 6mhz step.
It takes a while.       

Not much point scanning up thru the cellular 850 band (thru CH 83).
Not much point scanning from CH 52 - 69 either.
Unless u know you have some VHF Lo u can skip ch 2 - 6 also.
How long would it take it to scan from 7 thru 51, or
177 MHZ thru 701 MHz, would that save ya some time?



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Is there a chart somewhere that shows what channel is what mhz? I know I can get channels on 9 11 21 and 34 I think. I am going to try the 6 step right now.
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yeap...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_broadcast_television_frequencies




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