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As a side note my hinge did move when Irma came through here, but it was for the better!
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I am not familiar with "digitenna" but am always skeptical of anything that says "embedded amplifier", and such. I would prefer something from Antennas Direct if possible, as they have liberal warranty on their antennas and ya can pick up the phone and speak to someone from the USA who speaks normal english, should you need any advice or help. Not sayin, just sayin..

There is also a technician who works there that frequents the below forum and has helped quite a few people over the years (nick-> ADTECH). That thread was started in 2003 and is still going...
http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/81-over-air-ota-digital-television/41076-antennas-direct-ota-antennas-gear-60.html


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Digitenna is a great company to work with right here from Wisconsin, USA.  I can call and talk to the owner Brad any time I need to.  

I have found all of their products to be very good.  Proudly Made in the USA.

These are the reasons we sell their products!  [smile]

Thanks,

Rick

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Sorry Rick, did not realize you had OTA stuff. My bad, wont happen again.
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Hey that's fine.  They have not been around for a long time.  Still good to have you and others share your knowledge about what has worked for you.  Brad is working hard at Digitenna and I do really like him.  Everything I have sold from him has worked well, so I have been pleased.

Not everyone even knows I am selling these, so no problem at all.

I really appreciate everyone that is always so willing to help others here.

Thanks,

Rick

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Didn't make that connection either...

All for Made in USA if possible. Pat on the back to Rick for supporting.
Please tell Brad, It would go a long way in spreading the word, if they have published specifications that an engineer or technician can easily find/use to determine suitability of a product for given situations.

such as publishing radiation patterns for antennas, tables of key specifications vs frequency, gain, return loss, f/b, etc. For a preamp some key factors to consider would be gain, noise figure vs frequency, and most importantly maximum input levels, ie max input level of X number of signals without producing intermod distortion.
More detail provided the better...

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Despite fancy plastic designs and slick marketing hype, no antenna can bend the laws of physics.

Some of the reception testing that gathered the data for antennaweb.org was done here. I participated
in that with all the major antenna manufacturers involved, since we were the only DTv on air at the time. Drove around the area for days on end.The RCA DTC-100 receiver was a pile of boards laid out in the back of a van.  Neil Terk, the original fancy plastic design guy was there too with a fancy new prototype in a black bag. He was a heck of a nice guy (and brilliant marketer) who has since passed. He gave me a few of his antennas for my personal usage as a thank you.

In the end, the tried and true yagi's out performed all others. Amazing how the math actually holds up over hype. It's good to see Digitenna making antennas in the US. I have used a few and would recommend them.

Not a fan of Mohu that all the yuppie millineal cord cutters think are so great.

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Didn't make that connection either...

All for Made in USA if possible. Pat on the back to Rick for supporting.
Please tell Brad, It would go a long way in spreading the word, if they have published specifications that an engineer or technician can easily find/use to determine suitability of a product for given situations.

such as publishing radiation patterns for antennas, tables of key specifications vs frequency, gain, return loss, f/b, etc. For a preamp some key factors to consider would be gain, noise figure vs frequency, and most importantly maximum input levels, ie max input level of X number of signals without producing intermod distortion.
More detail provided the better...


Hi majortom,

We will make a friendly suggestion!  [smile]

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Let me ask again, hopefully this doesn't get hijacked again...

Will the DIGI2005 - DigiTenna® DT-XFAMP20-2 Extreme Fringe Antenna w/ Embedded Amplifier & Extra Input VHF Hi-Band/UHF, 0-80+ Miles work in conjunction with a 4-bay antenna. I assume that it would pass the power to the amplifier on the extra input, but it would be good to confirm?

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Perhaps your question would be better posed directly to the folks at DigiTenna: sales@digitenna.com

Then Rick can sell you what you need.

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I put in a call to Brad this morning to ask and he is out of the office until tomorrow.  I will try again then, as I do not know the answer.

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Will the DIGI2005 - DigiTenna® DT-XFAMP20-2 Extreme Fringe Antenna w/ Embedded Amplifier & Extra Input VHF Hi-Band/UHF, 0-80+ Miles work in conjunction with a 4-bay antenna. I assume that it would pass the power to the amplifier on the extra input, but it would be good to confirm?


Waiting for a call back now...

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Let me ask again, hopefully this doesn't get hijacked again... Will the DIGI2005 - DigiTenna® DT-XFAMP20-2 Extreme Fringe Antenna w/ Embedded Amplifier & Extra Input VHF Hi-Band/UHF, 0-80+ Miles work in conjunction with a 4-bay antenna. I assume that it would pass the power to the amplifier on the extra input, but it would be good to confirm?


Ok, was able to talk to the Owner of Made In the USA Digitenna, Brad today.  Please note, that he helps the dealers, but refers public calls to speak to the dealers.  The chain of distribution...

He said that YES, the above mentioned antenna will work with a 4 bay antenna, as that is what the extra port is for.

It would work best with a Digitenna 4 bay antenna of course, but will work with others as well.  [smile]

EDIT:  Please see my follow up below, as it WILL amplify both antennas.
My understanding is that the amplifier will not amplify the 4 Bay antenna, but it will allow you to Stack / Combine the signals from the 2 antennas.

He said the most important thing is to be able to balance the strength from the 2 antennas, so if one is very strong, it will not degrade the reception of the weaker signals.  So if one is real strong, it might require some attenuation or padding to help to balance them so reception is good from both antennas.

Thanks and Thanks to Brad for returning my call,

Rick



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I need to update my remarks above...  Both ports ARE actually powered, so it would amplify the 4 Bay Antenna.

As far as the embedded amplifier, they can be serviced / exchanged without having to replace the antenna.  They are 20db with 1db or less noise / typical is .85db.  The Amplifier Bandwidth is 50-1000MHz.

Brad is willing to help me and others all he can, so if I cannot get or give the answers needed and forum members cannot provide the answers, you can also write to tech@digitenna.com, but please understand that Brad does to a lot of traveling for training seminars to help educate dealers and installers to help build knowledge about OTA reception and it could take a day or even a week sometimes to get a reply if he is out of town, but he is dedicated to helping.

All of Digitenna products are built in Wisconsin, except for the power supplies and those, like me, we currently are still having to source them from outside of the US.  We both hope that maybe that will change in the future.

Special Thanks to Brad.

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Sure wish they made a VHF high only. My 8 bay does great, but 13 wlos out of Asheviile is over the mountain and through the woods for me. Hit or miss and it is my local ABC affiliate.
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