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Or reconfigure Windows to not lie about filenames by hiding what it considers "extensions". It's one of the very first things I do on first boot of a new Windows installation. There's also the option to use a file manager that always shows complete filenames regardless of the Windows setting. One such is File Commander.

I agree, and it's also the first thing I do with new installations of Windows.  But for people that don't do that, making 2 copies of the file is probably the quickest way to get the job done, then they can take their time to reconfigure Windows.
But if the 2 copy method doesn't work, then absolutely, make sure that Windows isn't hiding the extensions. 

OR... after you put the thumb drive into the Azbox, go to File Manager, select USB1 and then SDA1 or whatever pops up.  The Azbox file manager will display the file names with the proper extensions, so you can determine whether the file name is the problem.

OR...  another option that while in the Windows computer, pull up the Command Prompt, and at the prompt type e: or whatever drive letter has been given to the thumb drive.  The DOS command prompt will display the extensions properly, and if they're not right, you can change them there. 



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Mine says it's 5308 but it's something else?
When it was released, and I'm sure it was the last official firmware, but I don't remember the number. Well when it loaded it still showed it as 5308?
They had forgotten to change that number to read/show for whatever the number was. Maybe Rick or someone else could remember which number it was.
It was discussed on this forum somewhere. I think maybe it was 5311 as the last fw update, but it shows it in the AZ as 5308?
My guess is you are loading the correct one, but the 5308 is throwing you off, and you actually do have the 5311.....

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Pretty sure it was 5309 voomvoom Al.
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If memory serves me correctly, 5308 was the newest official firmware from AZ Box that actually had any changes in it to do with receiver operating functions.  The 5309, 5310 and 5311 were newer Official versions that had changes to keep You Tube working and there were no changes in the actual receiver operation functions.

I remember asking them about the numbers not changing and my rep would laugh and say, oh they forgot to change the firmware number again!

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What exactly is supposed to be the problem with 0.9.5402? It's what mine reports. I have no idea how to tell how long ago I installed it, but it's probably been 4 years. Its timestamp is July 2012.

Leatherneck could try first loading 0.9.5402, or something older than 0.9.5308, checking whether sysinfo reports same, then loading 0.9.5311 to see if it reports 0.9.5308 to confirm whether the only problem is the wrong version that 0.9.5311 reports.

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I would suggest staying with Official Firmware offered from the AZ Box people and not the firmware that came from the person with many different names from Canada.
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Pretty sure it was 5309 voomvoom Al.
You're probably right Jeff. I don't remember the number, but I have that one in my Premium Plus and it has worked well for me. So, I guess this info won't help him?

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I dont think there was any real problem with 5402 but it was not an official Opensat FW.
KDG sound right?..

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You're probably right Jeff. I don't remember the number, but I have that one in my Premium Plus and it has worked well for me. So, I guess this info won't help him?

It might.I do remember after 5308 the releases did not change the FW version # in the menu as it stayed at 5308.  For some reason I do not recall an original release after 5309 but there very well may have been..5020 and 5309 were always my favorites.Still running 5020 here as it is very stable.Problem with 5020 is you would need to build ur own NA sat list as that old FW still had all the European sats.

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I've been using version 5400 for 3 or 4 years myself, and it hasn't given me any significant problems, however I understand the desire to stay with official firmware.  If I had known at the time that it was unofficial, I probably wouldn't have loaded it.
I have a copy of 5311 firmware, and a dozen other versions.  I don't know of any way to verify that 5311 was official or unofficial.  I've seen a couple web pages that list it as being official, although it is dated after the 5400 series that are listed as unofficial.
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I need to get back and finish my reload. I haven't been formatting the firmware installation area. IS this something that might give a little better performance by doing?
I'm thinking by doing that a time or two before installation it might start with a cleaner,glitch free space

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I haven't been formatting the firmware installation area. IS this something that might give a little better performance by doing?
I'm thinking by doing that a time or two before installation it might start with a cleaner,glitch free space

It shouldn't, but it might. DOMs do have a finite life, so absent inexplicable trouble that might be from not doing it, I'd avoid it.

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I agree it shouldn't but it might. in the long run it's not worth the extra cycles on the DOM.
Only practical replacement might be SD flash memory providing you could find the IDE to SD adapter that was capable of handling 2 cards.  Might be asking for the moon and stars there anyway [biggrin]

My AZ is the only CBS I have so I definitely better take care of it[wink]

Thanks for the reply!

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I need to get back and finish my reload. I haven't been formatting the firmware installation area. IS this something that might give a little better performance by doing?
I'm thinking by doing that a time or two before installation it might start with a cleaner,glitch free space

I don't know about better performance, but when you load firmware, it doesn't remove data from the DOM that might be corrupted, and also if you're changing firmware versions to a very old version, there was one point in the past where there was a change in the format for the data, so it would be necessary to do the format in that case.  But in general it's just nice to start new with a fresh slate not potentially corrupted. Since there hasn't been any new firmware for several years, most people are only thinking about loading new firmware because there was some problem, and if you don't format the application area, you're leaving remnants of the problem on the DOM.
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I agree it shouldn't but it might. in the long run it's not worth the extra cycles on the DOM.
Only practical replacement might be SD flash memory providing you could find the IDE to SD adapter that was capable of handling 2 cards.  Might be asking for the moon and stars there anyway [biggrin]

My AZ is the only CBS I have so I definitely better take care of it[wink]

Thanks for the reply!


Re extra cycles on the DOM, just a guess on my part, not knowledge, but I think I would be more concerned about loss of the data on the DOM than worried about another write cycle wearing out the DOM.   Plus, if the DOM does wear out, just buy a new DOM and you're good to go. Or replace the DOM with a real hard drive. If you are really worried about the DOM going bad, you could just buy a new DOM now, and have it available in case the current one goes bad. It doesn't need to be programmed, you can just leave it blank. Or if you want a quick startup replacement, plug it in now, and get it running on that DOM, and then pull it out and have it ready for when you need it.

Re replacement with SD flash, there is a thread about a year ago when I tried this.
http://rickcaylor.websitetoolbox.com/post/azbox-elite-ide-dom-replacement-7958733?trail=15&highlight=azbox+ide+sd+cf
I couldn't find a suitable IDE to SD adapter, but did find an IDE to dual CF adapter, and found some CF to SD adapters.  However I tried about a half dozen different combinations of these adapters, and couldn't get anything to work properly.  Never did figure out what the problem was, but I suspected that there was an issue with respect to getting power to the CF or SD cards.  Maybe there are newer adapters available now that might work. 




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Thanks for the link to your work with memory cards. I wasn't even sure a DOM could be found any longer since I hadn't seen them at any of the usual memory sources but they are indeed still available MemoryX has oodles of em [cool]
My concern to start with was my receiver had started dropping timer events randomly as if they were manually erased. Also events would fail to fire sometimes and still be showing on the list. Since I knew I hadn't deleted any events I suspected something corrupt in operating system or firmware or storage medium.

I think doing a format and a clean reload of 5308 should hopefully eliminate that part of the equation as Rick said he recalled that firmware as the last that had any real receiver fixes.

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