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Arion

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Thanks for the info guys....appreciate it!
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Ok, I have one of their early 8 footers (actually 7.5 opening) and just bought and installed one their 10 footers.  Don't know if I got an odd ball out of their inventory, but focal length was not as published. They were not helpful, could only say that I was wrong.  However, we would all be dead trying to get the antenna I got to work at their numbers.  On another forum there is a thread called "Dish Specs, Trust but Verify" that tells the story and points to another forum where they all but call me a liar and incompetent.

With all that said.  The dish went together rather easily and did well on a string test.  Once I finally got to the point that the only I hadn't checked and/or changed was their numbers.  Once I did that and applied the new results to the feed position, all has been well.  Have had it up for about a month now.  I had a special mount made to fit my existing pole and it was made from mush heavier material than theirs.  I would recommend building a heavier mount.  If you have to hire it done, will run you another $300 to $400, but probably be worth it.  My location is somewhat sheltered from strong winds, but my 8 footer only had operator issues during it's 2 year up time.  Time will tell on the 10 footer, but so far so good.

I would buy from them again, but be aware that things may or may not be as advertised as to focal length.  The 10 foot dish has better surface accuracy (at least to the eye) than 8 footer had.  Dish is OK, the mount is their weak point.
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I guess the days of taking a Sunday trip around the countryside for a used dish to salvage have been picked thin.There is still many 7 1/2 and 10 footers in these parts still unclaimed and appear to not be in use but it is obvious this varies by region of the great ol USA.

Bummer many are having issues with the mount.I would say use an old mount from a Ch Master,KTI or Winegard but pretty clear if one could find a mount a dish would be attached.

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What has saved me to date is a guy who used to run a surplus electronics shop 30 years ago, where I occasionally ventured when I was into restoring high-end test equipment. That closed and he then did satellite dish installs for awhile, accumulating a lot in his junkyard. At one time he had an eye-popping stack of Ajak motors, sadly, mostly in bad shape under water and mud. I salvaged what I could.

I've been struggling to keep up with him as he moves around and changes his contact info. I tracked him down again several months ago after scanning Google satellite view maps for hours looking for a concentration of circles. He has dropped out of electronics and instead now does firewood. Unfortunately he didn't have a lot left in his junk heap, but I grabbed a few polar mounts at $10 each.

For the past few years I've been chasing feeds, many close to my horizon, with ever increasing FEC ratios and higher forms of modulation. Thus far I can still get just about anything on Ku-band using my 1.8 m Prodelin offset, and on C-band with my 3.2 m Radyx. But I've had a few recent scares where the CNR was on the knife edge, even though everything is tuned within about 0.05 dB of peak. That's enough to watch the birds fly around in their boxes. But I'm concerned I may need a few dB more in the future.

What also continues to intrigue me is out-of-footprint reception, particularly on Ku-band. For example I subscribe to the Shaw DTH service from Canada, and several years ago they launched Anik G1 to add capacity below the normal North American FTA Ku band. To prevent interference to US terrestrial services, they have to cutoff G1 coverage at the US/Canadian border, and they did a pretty good job. By the time the G1 beam gets to Denver, it's dropped around 15 dB, and that's a lot to make up on my end. My 1.8 m can only get a few channels from G1 on a good day, and my 2.6 m Birdview can lock many of of the transponders 24/7, but not all. When G1 heads north in its box, I start running out of margin. Hence another reason for bigger dishes.

But hardly anyone in Colorado ever planted FTA dishes larger than 3 m, and what's left of those is by now awfully sketchy. I spent a couple of months earlier this year measuring what pure-Ku I could squeeze out of Birdview solid and Unimesh mesh dishes. Both worked surprisingly well, but only after a number of modifications. I'm amping these up even further and have several new tricks left to try. But I will need a bigger dish, and the only realistic option was Tek2000. I've still got a few weeks of fabrication and installation before I'll know whether it was worth the brain damage.

The Tek2000 3.5 m I have measures out fine, but I have noticed typos/errors in their online dish specs. For example their 4.0 m dish lists a f/D = 0.44, but if you use their supplied focal length and diameter specs, it's really 0.34. Still, hardly any of my other dishes were accurately specified by the manufacturer. I'm pretty used to ignoring specs and doing my own measurements. Life goes on.

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I have a small junk yard or a place in the yard where I store my yet unused spare sat dish parts. I see no reason to install the smaller 7.5 foot mesh dishes but I do see future use for their quality Made In America polar mounts. Thus I seldom throw much away. I do not see a future where America is Great Again as in a lot of big well made sat dishes in many peoples back yards. That time has come and gone away. I see the hobby sat systems like the Rat Rod auto hobby were one must collect several parts from several different makes of autos and figure out a way to bolt those mismatched parts together to build a better machine. Same is true for home sat hobby people. All of my current dish farm was very low cost or free just for asking about the old dishes. Folks have recently shown via posts here that a few dishes are still out there "if" you can drive that far to bring them back to your back yard. I lost a channel master dish near me because a guy drove all the way here from the next state west of me and "took" that nice dish back to his state. I repaid the guy a year later I drove over to his state and brought a nice larger glass dish from his state and planted it in my yard. Finder keepers, looses have to pay for cable. There is a limit as to how far to drive to get the next dish. I will not drive to China to  get a new dish. However I am covered if I did get a TEK 2000 dish because my neighbor to my west "is from China" so she can read the directions to me if needed. She is  going back to  visit in China for two months this summer so "if" she can get a new TEK 2000 into her carry on luggage I may end up owning a new sat dish. There in is the current problem with the hobby as look what it costs just to ship a large new Ku dish across North America. America will never again be as great as it once was with all those large sat dishes in our back yards. We have made laws to ban them from most all new houses.
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I dropped the guy at Tek a note and his containers were held up in port and now supposed to be in by the end of the month.  I will probably get one of their dishes and do a careful install.  It seems like the biggest issue seems to be the mount.  My prevailing winds are from the West usually and North in winter.  Where I'm going to put the dish is pretty protected and I do sit in a bit of a bowl so it's rare here even to get a wind gust of 30 mph.  If I have to beef up the mount I can figure out how to do that.  Existing dishes are still around of course but getting something that old with really no way to transport it home makes it a problem.  And if it's a mesh and you disassemble it after 30 years then that presents a whole new set of problems too.  And I'll be careful on the measurements and will refer to the thread mentioned if I follow their measurements and can't pick anything up.  Most likely a problem with translation from Mandarin to English and the Tek guy is just going by the specs on the dish so he probably doesn't know any better himself.  

It does appear from what I've read that if you order the dish you'll get it and that he isn't a fly by night operator that will take your money and run.  That is always a potential issue especially since he is out of Canada and I'm in the U.S.  For me this is a hobby and half the fun is in getting it to work right and seeing what is up there.  Probably more than anything I'm interested in the 107 bird to watch football games in the fall and the relocated audio feeds going up on 105.  I've had Directv for a few years now and canceling that in a few days.  Hardly ever watch it anyway and will save $100 a month.  That will pay for the dish and associated costs within a year.  When I get it I'll probably start my own thread on the install process, ect.  Wish there was a domestic source for new dishes at a reasonable cost but it is what it is.  Not a big enough market and quality is going to be expensive which dissuades the hobbyist.

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I believe a member here ,think his user name was Bendooly...He purchased one from them.Maybe we can pull up his postings on his experience with Tek2000.
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Yes,just found it ..Thread was started by him 12/9/14
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turtleman,

Did you mean this thread

https://rickcaylor.websitetoolbox.com/post/new-12ft-mesh-dish-7200365?pid=1285343508

I am looking at upgrading to 12' but haven't pulled the trigger yet.
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From another site. It is suppose to be a tek2000 12'.

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According to the forum where the Tek guy hangs out he has this to say about the new dishes coming in.

These are our 6th generation models. Changes include welding thicker gauge steel around all high-stress points on the steel frame and new brackets to support motorized declination, elevation and azimuth. The brackets and motors (jacks, actuators and slewing drives) are sold separately. You need a 24V/36V DC power supply to drive these motors or you can purchase our custom controller which will become available in 2017. The idea is to give you as much orientation control over your dish as possible, whether you just want to watch television, fine-tune those 32APSK signals, track a satellite in an inclined orbit or perform radio astronomy experiments.


If that is accurate then the biggest problem with the dish being the weak mount 'might' be solved or at least mitigated a bit.  Between that and if they have a more accurate translation from Chinese to English in the instructions perhaps the miscommunication about the F/D ratio and the distance for mounting the feed is cleared up.  Motorized declination, elevation and azimuth is interesting for inclined satellites and fine tuning but I bet those motors would be expensive not to mention finding a controller that can make those adjustments.

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The "good stuff" is often "not free" how ever possible controllers can include the Research Concepts 2000 model units. Several often for sale cheap on E Bay. If the China folks make their own version of that quality product perhaps it will be much lower cost to own. You could never go wrong with a motor control for all directions of dish travel. I currently track and peak my best Ku dish from the comfort of an indoor easy chair. This summer I will add such features to some of my large C band dishes as well. This news from the TEK 2000 is very good. Someone appears to be trying to make improved products for the FTA home hobby people. (us) Now we just need great 4K sat receivers!

 


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This thread has run it's course and is now locked and the original question asked has been answered by several individuals.

Folks can make up their own mind as to whom they want to do business with.  As stated by me in another thread, I researched doing business with them, but I cannot sell such a large item without at least being able to have phone communication with the company selling them.

I cannot sell large satellite dishes that are not up to what they need to be.  Customers would of been demanding for me to give them a refund and have the dish returned at my cost if I had sold them with some of the issues that have been discussed.  

I am not telling others what to do.  Everyone can make up their own mind based upon the discussions that have been presented.

Competition is good for the market place and the end user and I support that.

One of the previous largest C-Band dealers in the country is looking at importing dishes and it is likely the same company out of China.  He has been informed of all of these discussions and directed to these threads.  I suggested some of the things that have been discussed here already.  Like the need for a stronger mount and panels have to be drilled correctly to match the mounting ring and to also request the mount to accept a 3 1/2" OD Pole size.

Thanks for everyone's input.

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