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Same place.

I live in the real world. I imagine so does boomer. The reason why I wrote recent posts in this thread was to keep expectations realistic. Under-spec replacements cannot be expected to have normal lives. It works now, so fine. But, for how long, and worse, might out-of-spec replacements have side effects not so easily, or at all, corrected, on an irreplaceable AZBox?


again if you cared so much why didnt you step to the plate and help him?

thats probably true about under-spec replacements, but how did the "spec'ed" originals work out for him and others with the same issue?

did you see the readings i got from the "spec'ed" originals?  do you think the ones that failed occurred at the same exact time?  hopefully his azbox isnt already fried.  

i will say this..if @boomer_106 is listening.  he is more than welcome to send the psu back and have me put different caps in, but trust me the azbox is far from irreplaceable.  anyone not using a pc these days is in the wrong hobby right now, but that could change obviously.
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I want to echo what Emil posted and NICE JOB Merkin!!!

There will always be those who look at things from a Negative Point of View!  Time has already told us that!

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again if you cared so much why didnt you step to the plate and help him?

You beat me to it. I didn't see the thread until after merkin made his offer. I've done lots of gratis repairs for people. In fact, if boomer would send it to me I would put in the FMs I suggested, check to make sure none of the others are under spec, and replace any that are. That said, I'm no electronics wizard, and my competence is limited. Electronics repair is a hobby for me limited almost entirely to using what I've learned as a consequence of having found Carey Holzman's Overclockers article many moons ago.

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thats probably true about under-spec replacements, but how did the "spec'ed" originals work out for him and others with the same issue?

For him, obviously not so well. That others haven't reported the same failure from Samsha WDs that obviously have been a problem elsewhere is probably just an indication of high quality over engineering from the AZBox's designers. I wish I had one of those many failed power supplies from the HD+, to see which brands on the badcaps.net bad caps list were used in them, or that someone who still has one that was replaced would report what is in it.

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did you see the readings i got from the "spec'ed" originals?

I was hoping to see some. Where are they?

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do you think the ones that failed occurred at the same exact time?

Of course not.

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hopefully his azbox isnt already fried.

Truly.

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trust me the azbox is far from irreplaceable.

Some define what those here do as hobby. Others are just trying best they can to keep an old TVRO investment useful, and/or find a PC is a poor substitute for a dedicated STB.

To Rick & Emil and others who see negativity I am sorry you feel that way, as my intent is to be both realistic and helpful.

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http://rickcaylor.websitetoolbox.com/post/show_single_post?pid=1295281474&postcount=34&forum=232449

@jdpca..check the link above.
i dont question your intent..just seemed it was played like a monday morning quarterback.  my offer wasnt made until a week after the OP.

i am sure the azbox is a direct replica of the envision and/or vantage sdk's from sigma..all credit goes to them.
i would be willing to bet that the psu were designed and sold to opensat by another company.

i measured the esr of the new caps also and here are the results:
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Debilitating oversight on my part. It lead to me writing considerably more here than I would have found any reason to otherwise. [frown] [redface]

So, multiple G-Luxon and multiple Samwha RD, both with bad reliability records, were found. Knowing this, if I had an Elite, I wouldn't wait long to recap, and I would use FM in C213, C201, C202 C206 and C207 rather than FC and PW; not because of ESR specifications, but because of ripple. I just opened up my HD+ (but not its separate power supply) to see all electrolytics are Lelon. Its larger caps are polys without branding.

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my offer wasnt made until a week after the OP.

That was 21 days before I saw the thread. [eek]

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Great job Merkin. Always good to see a fellow fta'er helping another.
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I find a lot of original equipment caps are usually voltage-rated very close to the operating working voltage of the circuit they are in. When replacing them I usually at least double up on voltage rating (if other ratings are similar, especially capacitance), using the circuit voltage as a reference. Luckily my AzBoxes have had no power supply issues so far, but thanks to @Merkin the part numbers are listed in the event I ever need them; the chart above has been printed and added to my FTA "stuff" binder. [smile]
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Don't know if it's just me or not but, I'm having a lot of Bad Gateway messages on this site tonight. 

Anyway, I'm happy and appreciative of any help I get. My suspicion was that it was a bad tuner since it powered up fine. I thought Merkin was just going to confirm which was bad so he's gone above and beyond. Thank you Merkin. 

 I've noticed a lot of helpful people during my time here. It makes it an enjoyable place. It's almost like an extended family sometimes. 

 I haven't received the units back yet so I guess we shall see how things go when I get her up and running again. It gets less use than it used to because it seems like pro sports feeds have decreased over the years. I'm sure fiber technology has been a big factor there[frown]. Football season is it's main use for me. 

jdcpa, thank you for your offer to help as well.  I doubt that the Azbox is fried. It would occasionally still work so I don't think it's in too bad of shape. 

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Ditto Boomer, on the bad gateway messages.  My computer is really struggling with this site tonight.  

Wanted to remind you Boomer, that there are still some games on WGN I think you like to watch too, even though we have to wait until October now for the next game.  [bawl]
 

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Ditto Boomer, on the bad gateway messages.  My computer is really struggling with this site tonight.  

Wanted to remind you Boomer, that there are still some games on WGN I think you like to watch too, even though we have to wait until October now for the next game.  [bawl]
 


Yes, you're right Pops. I keep forgetting about those.

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Ok, I received the parts back from Merkin and I am now trying it out. It seems to be tuning just fine now. 

I do have a couple of issues though.  The HDMI port is no longer working. I find that strange because it worked when I took the parts out?  I've swapped everything I can to prove that the port is the problem. Tried a different cable. Connected straight to two diffferent known working inputs on the TV.  Several hard reboots to make sure the handshake wasn't the issue. Checked the settings in the Azbox. Made sure HDMI and resolution settings looked ok. Still a no go. [frown]   Component and Composite connections work ok. I have an HDMI switch so I used to be able to watch it on 3 different tvs. 2 with HDMI and one with component. Using component only, I'll be limited to one but, I guess that's better than none. 

Other problem is, when I was having so much trouble before I sent the parts out, I did a reformat area and FW re-install. All the Eastern sats came back. I can't seem to connect ACC to the Azbox now. I used to be able to with no problem. I went in and checked the Network service settings and have them all enabled again. I set the internet settings the way they were. IP 192.168.1.20 and subnet mask to 255.255.255.0  wired network, Static IP. I am using a crossover cable between my laptop and the box. LAN connection IP on the pc is 192.168.1.10   I had this all in a notepad file to remind me since I only do it once in a blue moon. These settings always worked. Now I just get connection failed. Am I overlooking anything?  

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Maybe try and eliminate the HDMI switch.Have had troubles here with those.tried changing to Dynamic IP ?.

Sorry bout ur Blackhawks boom.

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Maybe try and eliminate the HDMI switch.Have had troubles here with those.tried changing to Dynamic IP ?.


Yep, the first thing I did was try a different cable going directly from the box to a good port on the TV. Many hard reboots, same result. Black screen. I just tried changing to Dynamic when I saw your post. No difference. Still won't connect. Speed check says, internet not available.  The setup at the bottom of the Internet screen in Azbox says connecting for about 20 seconds then, says failed try again. Ignored that and go to ACC. Now it will say "could not open connection to host 192.168.1.20 port 23

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 Sorry bout ur Blackhawks boom.


That was a tough one. I certainly expected a deeper run than 4 games. They were outplayed, plain and simple. Looked like Nashville wanted it more to me. 

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i took the screenshot with the "admin_control" app while ssh'd into the elite and then i used ftp to transfer the screenshot. none of this would be possible without an active ethernet port.

i also used the hdmi port throughout all testing without issue.  i left cbs on for three full days.

what firmware version are you currently running?

first thing i would do is reload firmware.  
its been suggested by others to reformat the application area a few times before you reload the firmware.

regarding the ethernet..do you have a router that you can plug directly into the azbox for quick testing?

if you must use a crossover make sure that ICS is enabled:
http://www.home-network-help.com/windows-7-internet-connection-sharing.html

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i took the screenshot with the "admin_control" app while ssh'd into the elite and then i used ftp to transfer the screenshot. none of this would be possible without an active ethernet port.

i also used the hdmi port throughout all testing without issue.  i left cbs on for three full days.

what firmware version are you currently running?

first thing i would do is reload firmware.  
its been suggested by others to reformat the application area a few times before you reload the firmware.

regarding the ethernet..do you have a router that you can plug directly into the azbox for quick testing?

if you must use a crossover make sure that ICS is enabled:
http://www.home-network-help.com/windows-7-internet-connection-sharing.html



Your tests were with your motherboard though. I got thinking  and, before I sent you the parts, I was having black screen issues. I just went back and looked at the first 3 pages of this thread. I think it was page 1 where I had it go haywire as soon as I plugged in HDMI so perhaps the port was failing at that time. It doesn't surprise me. I have seen HDMI ports fail. One of my Directv receivers has a bad port. My Dad had two of them in his TV fail. 

Yes, I have a router that I can connect a cable to.  The crossover has always worked fine and was easy so I just used that. 



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