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Prime time 24 scrambled on C band, both the east and the west, but NBC on Ku[three feeds] never did scramble that I know of.  Jess out in California
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now i do remember when did NBC start using Ku band? would had been in 80s
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Not sure, but they were there when I added Ku to my radio shack dish.  New c/ku feed horn and ku lnb.  Ku was fun back then.  Lot's of news feeds that the nets didn't cover all of , like the branch davidian, ruby ridge and a hanging[Washing state I think].  You jest searched through the ch's on the different sat's  Jess out in California
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These are great. I put my first dish in as soon as I bought my first house, in early 1984, Ponca City, OK. HBO was still ITC - for 6 months. I quickly became a fan of the NBC raw feeds. Not just the Today Show time zones but when they had baseball. Hearing Vin & Joe or Bob & Tony chat between innings was fascinating. The level of commentary shot up when they were talking to each other. Personal stories too. One time during a World Series game the camera followed Al Michaels into the men’s room. He nearly messed the area when he saw them behind him. Then they replayed the tape in the box when he returned. Much kid fun. I taped some of these games for posterity. Them’s were the days!


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if seemed to me when ABC had CFB id listen to either Jackson or Musburger- and those two guys were classy you could say the same thing about Enberg or Summerall too but i have seen news anchors who were classy only persons i have seen get close to being mad was during the 92 riots in LA with Colleen Williams and John Beard- and you could tell they were close to getting upset over the disorder in the city of course the CBC guys on hockey were classy too you almost never heard any cussing from those guys
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It was October, 1989. I had just gotten home from work, and turned on the ABC net feeds on T1 to watch the World Series. I was putting stuff away, when, next thing I know, the video had been lost, and on the backup phone audio they were talking about an earthquake. So, as always, I start dialng around on that sat. I came across an aerial feed from a chopper. At that point, I had no idea if it was even live. But then they started showing the collapsed freeway bridges, and I realized this was live from San Fran! The people at the stadium didn't realize how serious it really was, and I was watching this minutes after it happened! When people ask about my BUD, this is some of the history that I can tell them that I witnessed practically first hand.

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1983 or 1984 I don't remember exactly but I watched the Indy 500 live on a feed for Japan. The audio was in Japanese and their announcers were in the stands behind the pits calling the race. The Indy 500 was not broadcast live in the U.S. until 1986 and is STILL on tape delay for the Indpls market... shown at 7:00PM local time.

I had a 70Mhz receiver called a Satec R5000. The VCO (voltage controlled oscillator) for the receiver was in a metal box outside mounted to the pole. The box had three connections... two F59, one for the 70Mhz signal output for the indoor receiver and the second F59 carried the voltage for the oscillator from the receiver. When you wanted to change channels you would turn a pot on the front of the receiver... this would change the voltage on the coax going to the outdoor VCO. The third connection was an N connector for the Drake 100 degree LNA. Polarotor for C-band only, 8ft spun aluminum dish. The mount was home made locally by a weld shop and included the 6.2 degree offset built in to the four feet that the spun aluminum dish mounted to. Trailer hand jack to change sats.

The drift was so bad on the VCO, especially when temp changed I had to readjust the channel pot about every 20 to 30 min.

How is this for luck.... about 6 months after the install, circa 1984, AT&T puts up a huge microwave tower less that 2 miles south of me. You guessed it.. my fight with TI started. The only way it was completely cured is when I went to a Winegard 10ft deep dish. I still use that dish today at my home, although it has been refurbished with new hardware, paint and converted from button hook to quad support.

Oh for the days!

I was 22 and installed the system at my parents house. Mom was cool with it because you couldn't see the dish from the road or front of the house. Dad was cool with it because mom was. Because of the Indy 500 blackout I was a popular guy on race day. Still in my early 20s my race day party got out of hand a few years... people were showing up I didn't even know... friends of friends who told other friends I guess. Finally my folks asked me one year... Do you know all these people? It was a different day in age back then and if you were a friend of a friend you were ok... especially on Indy 500 day.

DiamondJim can tell you what the Indy500 still means to some of us that grew up with it. I still get a bit emotional thinking this year was my 30th(in a row) Indy 500 race party for friends and family; mom and dad were at the first and they are both gone now along with a friend who died very young at 38.

31 years later... I'm scared to add up all the money I spent on dishes and equipment over the years.... and Indy 500 parties.



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did that during 92 LA riots.. started dialing the NBC sats on KU and found a KNBC feed with just Jess Marlow and Colleen Williams while on my other receiver i had found the Habs/Whalers 6th game from Hartford from CBC  with Bob Cole and Dick Irvin, Jr  at the same time also the Lakers were at home against Portland on TNT in their 4th game with Pete Van Werien and Hubie Brown on the call so that was something interesting to watch!(and to put it mildly i am surprised the NBA let that POR/LAL game go on in spite of the rioting
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I had my BUD since 93 mostly for the NFL, which went subscription in 94.  But the one thing that sticks with me the most back then was the Northridge quake in January 94.  The temp here in central PA was -22 and everything was closed to save on electricity.  I think work was closed for 2 or 3 days.  That first morning I started scanning the skies looking for nothing in particular and I came across what looked like a gas line fire shot from a helicopter.  Then I found another feed and another.  Finally I found a feed for what I think was KTLA and they were talking about the quake.  For three straight days I just watch raw footage from the quake zone and all the damage that was out there.  It was so much more that what you would see on regular tv.

Then a couple years later my neighbor and I were watching a high school football feed from a northeastern PA TV station.  Since we both can from that area we both had interest in the game.  During a stations break one of the commentators made a comment I can't repeat here, but I remember the other guy saying something like, Easy, Easy, everyone with a backyard dish can be listening to us.  We got a good laugh out of it.


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I had my BUD since 93 mostly for the NFL, which went subscription in 94.  But the one thing that sticks with me the most back then was the Northridge quake in January 94.  The temp here in central PA was -22 and everything was closed to save on electricity.  I think work was closed for 2 or 3 days.  That first morning I started scanning the skies looking for nothing in particular and I came across what looked like a gas line fire shot from a helicopter.  Then I found another feed and another.  Finally I found a feed for what I think was KTLA and they were talking about the quake.  For three straight days I just watch raw footage from the quake zone and all the damage that was out there.  It was so much more that what you would see on regular tv.

Then a couple years later my neighbor and I were watching a high school football feed from a northeastern PA TV station.  Since we both can from that area we both had interest in the game.  During a stations break one of the commentators made a comment I can't repeat here, but I remember the other guy saying something like, Easy, Easy, everyone with a backyard dish can be listening to us.  We got a good laugh out of it.


yep about 94 earthquake remember my school was closed too for same reason..having a KNBC feed with just Chuck Henry and Colleen Williams in the KNBC newsroom while also watching the ABC coverage at the time with Ted Koppel..thought that Chuck and Colleen were so much better than the network people who were in New York or Washington! could also add when i saw Kelly Lange..she was much better than even Jennings or Brokaw or Rather that night! made me think that the local anchors can be better than the network anchors sometimes(During the 89 earthquake in SF i thought KGO anchor Cheryl Jennings did a better job than Ted Koppel or Al Michaels..even though Al was a SF resident at the time) you could also tell they were very close to being emotional over the fact that people had died it would be hard for a anchor to keep their emotions in check over something like that.. one of the reasons i kept my dish long after 94 until around 2006..was also seeing some great college football games on ABC that were not seen in my area including the Nebraska Missouri game in 97 or the Fresno State San Diego State game with Marshall Faulk in 92 or the wild LSU Ohio State game in 88 or the Baylor Texas A&m game in 86 or any of that years LCS or World Series.. also saw some great NFL action too
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one memory i do have of announcers..in 88 was watching a Minnesota Michigan game and Gary Bender and Dick Vermell were doing the call..seemed that every break they were making fun of Becky Dixon who was on the sidelines.. and her having to endure not only the rain..but the cold weather too! while Gary and Dick were in the booth where it was warm! meanwhile at my house in Western NC it was sunny and in the mid-60s! showed how the difference in the weather can be between areas of the country(and it was early November too!) it made me think "what in the heck are Gary and Dick talking about? they should not be making fun of their colleague because she has to be in that kind of weather!" it did provide me some entertainment watching a game that wasn't close though reminded me of how Gifford and Cosell used to do that on MNF if the game wasn't close since they were in those days supposed to be there to inform, observe, and entertain sometimes it made me appreciate that the job that Bender had to do too(and remember he had to keep his analyst and sideline reporter in check too even during breaks i could also say the same thing about Keith Jackson too) sometimes the PBP guy could get in all of the funny stuff during breaks..and there were a few who would sometimes be funnier during breaks than on the air(and thats why
they make a lot of money in the first place)
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These are great. I put my first dish in as soon as I bought my first house, in early 1984, Ponca City, OK. HBO was still ITC - for 6 months. I quickly became a fan of the NBC raw feeds. Not just the Today Show time zones but when they had baseball. Hearing Vin & Joe or Bob & Tony chat between innings was fascinating. The level of commentary shot up when they were talking to each other. Personal stories too. One time during a World Series game the camera followed Al Michaels into the men’s room. He nearly messed the area when he saw them behind him. Then they replayed the tape in the box when he returned. Much kid fun. I taped some of these games for posterity. Them’s were the days!


so.. you could hear the Today show anchors or Vin and Joe or Bob and Tony during breaks so what was your opinon of them off camera back then? i gained a lot of respect for Keith Jackson and Gary Bender when watching a Big 10 or Pac 10 game from a ABC backhaul  back in 88 and 89.. did the same thing with Enberg or Criqui or Jones from watching AFC games too
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i remember during the 89 earthquake i stumbled upon a feed with Leslie Griffith..would was with KTVU which was the FOX station in SF..she was in Oakland and part of a bridge had collapsed anyway she was a little upset at someone and she said something i cant print here but it was a cuss word aimed at someone i know wasn't Dennis Richmond or Elane Corrall but might had been someone who was from ABC..maybe Bill Blakemore who also was trying to cover it too..sometimes a cuss word would happen when reporters from two networks or stations were covering the same story when i saw Leslie i started recording to see what she might have to say..you could tell the bridge was a mess
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my folks can remember watching the 1984 Olympics on their big dish..saw ABC feeds ITC as well as diffrent overseas networks..for example you could watch the ABC feed or the BBC both backhauls of events..those were the days IMHO
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correct remember the wndu color bars for those games was abc itc for cfb until ppv started?


ABC was leitch encrypted in the early 90's. You could hear the programming but not see it. I don't remember college football specifically but NFL MNF and primetime were scrambled most nights. MNF backhauls were scrambled in the 90's. I don't remember cfb. ABC/ESPN CFB didn't start scrambling recently on backhauls until FOX decided in 2010. 



when did ABC start leitch encrypting? i remember getting the ABC feed ITC untill around maybe 92?
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