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Right now smartdvb says that CBS is at 35366 KBPS video. Hope that helps.
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using your image and bitrate viewer...around 27000 kbps. However the plugin seemed to stop working. 
Maybe that will give you something to work with....so between 2.5 and 3 times more than the feed you recorded. Maybe this will get us closer  [smile]  Thanks! Let me know what else you need.

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My active ME's [0] is running openatv-5.3-azboxme-20161228dazulrich. I got it to claim to record CBS Evening News refeed from 97W 4080V at 19:00 eastern, according to its .ts file's timestamp, 28 minutes long, and 2349MB in size. Enhanced Movie Center claims the recording is 8 minutes long, but since playback is to broken, I can only guess its reported length is close to correct.

Also I recorded the original feed 30 minutes earlier on my AZBox HD+. It's filesize is 7467MB. Neither ME nor HD+ will play it back acceptably, though both try. I also used the HD+ to record the first two minutes of the 19:00 refeed, size 574MB.

I have two ME CBS recordings from the first year I had my ME. Which software they were made with I can't say, but OpenATV 5.3 plays both all the way through. One is 18 minutes of Letterman, 5208MB. The other is 25 minutes of a Criminal Minds episode, 7073MB.

If any of these recordings would be of any use for software testing, let me know which via email.

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thanks for the offer, but those files are rather big to be shared... also not sure they will tell too much.
just being realistic here. I have very limited means to do anything on this. unless it is actually an E2 problem.
If its a Linux kernel problem - they may be scope via defconfig changes
But if its a driver issue (which it probably is), then there is no hope really. (and as we all know the different drivers always had different bugs...) hence the switching kernel galore back then - 3.3.1, 3.4.4, 3.5.5, 3.9.2

The trouble is there are so many permutations of configs at work and that it near impossible to tell.

In the older posts you reported of high CPU use, memory running low. I'd wonder how this behaviour is similar on the kernels where the recordings work.
There were changes made in enigma in relation to the recording buffers..
I got  openrsi "source code" (which was posted by Sattommy back in 2013) - it is for openrsi3.0 with kernel 3.3.1 , this might help understanding what openrsi did do differently on the E2 level. (as he was using openpli E2 code base)  . But for that we should understand whether openrsi 3.0 is any good for recording CBS.
here seems to host some openrsi3.0 images http://www.rrutten.nl/azbox/index.php?dir=Firmware%2FOpenRSI%2F
(its where I got the source code from)

mountaineer or jdcpa, if you could restart your box. stop E2 via init 4 on telnet and start E2 to capture debug log. (with openatv  5.3 or 6)
then do a recording until it fails (one of those quick ones) and post the debug log AND messages and dmesg files please.

if you do some testing with older openrsi versions. would be great to get same logs (working and not working)

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I will do my best to get that done when I get home this evening! Thanks for all of your work and patience!  [smile]


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No rush.. it hasn't worked in a long time...
Looked through some of the E2 change logs and there were changes made over time how many buffers are used during recording (dependent on max memory of the boxes).
currently the ME allocates 16 buffers , but may well be that the memory footprint of E2 has left too little free RAM - compared to the old openrsi.

might be an interesting experiment to strip as many plugins as possible and then see if it records any longer.. which would point to a ram issue, instead of a fundamental drier bug.
Not sure if extending memory by use of swap would be picked up by the code allocating the buffers - and as it add overhead to the processor, this might not be conclusive as it might crash for other reasons.
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I stripped down my openazbox kernel 3.3.1 version. I deleted almost all of the plugins in the plugin screen except azplay. 

webif, mediaplayer, ccam, ppanel etc all bit the dust. I used the red button while in the plugins page to do it. 

I then loaded in easy media player, and will load in a time update plug. That will be it. I am testing recordings now.

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thanks. any details about the image would be good. if it has an about, date of image / date of E2, etc. and the logs as mentioned.
i had a read through the CBS recording thread. lots of different images being mentioned and tested over time. but couldn't really work out which actually worked best for recording... play back of recordings seem to be other issue (but lets not go there)
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has anybody tried the american edition minime software? Aztrino maybe it is called....to record CBS? I may try that to narrow down if it is a Hardware issue or not.
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Should we move that discussion to the CBS recording thread. More ppl will read it there.
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I could not get it to load onto minime...anyway.
i am trying another image right now..15mins and still going. Will post the info.

EDIT 45 minutes and going strong......

Ok it recorded the whole hour of criminal minds.

Here is what I did:

1. Load the image
2. Goto plugins ...press the red button and deleted all of the plugins  that weren't in the systemplugins folder. in other words all of the extension plugins..as in all of the...extension folder is now gone when you press the red button. I left all of the system plugins and the skin plugin.

3. I did not load a sat list...I set up the one sat in the image and scanned in 4080 V 29860 on C G19. It can do it because it is kernel 3.3.1. Only two channels in the receiver are 4080 sid 1 and 4080 sid 2. The sat is some European sat I think, just set it up as if it was C G19.

4. In system settings I disabled teletext caching, background scanning, and all epgs.

5. there does not seem to be an instant recording button assigned..rec button puts it into radio mode...stop button takes it back to tv.

6. I setup the recording path to my USB drive and RESTARTED THE BOX to clear everything out.

6. then  I setup a timer recording for 1 hr ............

and it recorded it all.

Open azbox pre release 4
based on openpli 2.1
kernel 3.3.1
jan 17 2013

Image is here:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7nvg2hwlrctojyl/AAAe0kbUm5usqUZ25bT1OKJTa?dl=0


easy media player and other plugins are here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nq5ldupw92dt4xg/azme%20plugins.rar?dl=0




Azplay would not play the file. I filezillaed in easy media player and the file played great...no issues. However with a new plugin...I need to do another recording to see if that had an effect on it.


EDIT: after adding easy media player...the next recording stopped after about 15 minutes. I am removing that plugin and retesting.
If it records fine...then we need to look at memory. We need to find enough more to take out to make room for easymedia player, so it can be recorded and watched. I dont think azplay can be taken out...I believe it is the base media player and easy media player will not work without it. Of course if we could get azplay to play the 4:2:2 recordings ... we might just be done!



MAYBE SOMEONE CAN ATTEMPT TO REPLICATE MY RESULTS>>>REMEMBER IT IS KERNEL 3.3.1 and you will lose everything if you have 3.9.2  loaded on yours.

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Thanks mountaineer,

memory might just be a constraint. the newer images usually get bigger with each release.
But in principle you can record 1h plus with kernel 3.3.1 (well that version of the driver)
It would be interesting to know what free memory you ended up with - RAM and flash.
debug log and messages/dmesg for success and failure would be good. (if there are any CPU/ memory use observations relating to the failure would be good)

then one could try stripping a 3.9.2 image to similar memory footprint to see if it still records.
the older openrsi3.0 images are prob smaller than the oatv or hdmu etc images.
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can you look at the image I posted and see what all can be stripped out of the system plugins and the image still be useable? I removed all of the extension plugins.
People who want to record CBS may just have to have a super stripped down version maybe.
I had no way to see free memory or anything...I will look again tonight. I think some more still needs to come out for it to be reliable. 
I set up 3 separate timer recordings of an hour each before I left this morning..I will see when I get home if they worked. This was using it with easy media removed again.

How much room does a full sat and channel list take up do you know?

Thanks again!


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My wife said that it had spinning wheels. She said it did record the first one....how much I have no idea. I'll check when I get home. I think it did this last night...after one recording...when it tried to do a second timer recording the wheels started and box had to be restarted. That is why I think it needs to be stripped more. Also it need a time plugin to constantly check the time from the net, as well as a media player capable of playing the recordings.

 All that said..over the past several months I have tried recording CBS on an Optibox Anaconda both using E2 and reg FW, Same for an Optibox Raptor, Openbox S10, Jynxbox etc. None of them will record it properly...recording is either stopped prematurely or is very messed up in parts or whole. 
I was able to record it on my Edison OSmini dual tuner stb. It cant play 4:2:2 .... but it makes the whole recordings and can be streamed to a computer or WDTV live and played. The osmini is much much newer and had much more cpu power and memory. The mini is running E2. so maybe it is a processing and / or memory issue. As the images have gotten bigger with more "stuff" in them there may be much less memory to fall back on to do the recording of such an intensive signal.

Maybe someone with a newer box like a VU or something can try a recording and see if it does ok and can be streamed to a computer and play fine. That will help narrow it down as well.

Thanks!

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thanks for all the testing.
one other thought, the box records lower bitrate 4:2:2 feeds right? even with 3.9.2 kernel images.? its really just that one (or a small number of other feeds) that is falling over like this.

another recording with debug log on with this older version would be useful. but "debugging" by proxy is usually not really fruitful....
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