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majortom

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Or some Power Supply caps are going bad and it's starting to have a hard time telling a 'one' from a 'zero'.
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I suppose either of those are possible, so would that mean the box is broke?
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dunno for sure, but without good/solid DC power for the main board to operate, all bets are off. Easy enough to rule out...
the S10 s/be pretty similar to the S9

http://rickcaylor.websitetoolbox.com/post/openbox-s9-power-supply-repair-5974417?pid=1285099285#post1285099285


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My S9 (which I will not plug into the network from now on) is not experiencing any problems for what it may be worth.  I hope reloading firmware in the cases reported here will resolve the issue.  If I've followed the thread accurately, there's more than one user experiencing this error, which to me would seem to make a hardware problem an extremely unlikely cause.
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I still have S9's and S10's in use w/o any issues. many are dedicated receivers for parked dishes I have at my home and other family/work dishes too
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If I've followed the thread accurately, there's more than one user experiencing this error, which to me would seem to make a hardware problem an extremely unlikely cause.

I am of the opposite opinion. People can screw around with all the software they want until they are blue in the face and it won't help if there is a hardware issue. No more than it would on your Computer.
It's really pretty simple to verify / eliminate the possibility.
Just remove the cover and doing  a careful visual inspection, take a look around for failed capacitors.
I don't think software would help any of those thousands of examples of failed capacitors.
None of those examples would be there if it wasn't such a common problem with all types of electronics.
Get out the digital voltmeter to confirm DC voltages at least look clean. Pretty simple.

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I worked on Mr. Buds S10. I have three of them. That does not make me an expert by any means. This is what I found.

Mr. Buds box suddenly started experiencing problems. Not much later It then gave him a clone message. He sent the box to me. I loaded FW thru a null modem cable...and it took it and booted up fine. Thought we were good to go. Went and hooked it up to sat dishes and it wouldnt move the ku dish ...would restart etc. Would lose channels and not scan. FInally gave me clone message. I reloaded the FW using null modem and it again went to work...but above issues resurfaced quickly. I then used/connected on of my s10's power supply to his box (I took both boxes apart and ran the white ribbon cable from the power board of mine to his). Box worked like new...moved ku dish , scanned etc. Beautiful. Then reconnected his PS and box was back to no good.
 In my estimation the power supply was bad. The drop in Voltage caused false clone messages and all other problems. i would assume it was the caps.but didnt have the equipment to check the components. mailed back to Mr. Bud who is getting it serviced. Have to ask him about what issues his person found with PS.

Now I would say that the S9 in the other thread is doing the same. My guess, but sounds exactly the same.

My 2 cents though it may not be worth more than that.

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Mountaineer,
You have proven my point a few posts above. That all bets are off with anything, without clean DC power. One would be wise to recap a limping power supply now, before it fails catastrophically, causing more damage, like in some of them google images.
All the required part numbers are there with photos and all, in the Openbox S9 Power Supply repair thread..

For the S10, someone just needs to document all the Reference Designators, capacitance, and working voltage,
and we could easily come up with a similar list of suitable replacement parts for the S10 Power Supply Module.
I would be happy to do that, but I just don't have one here.

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