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Two days ago, I was using my SW-1, and all was well. Switched coax to a different dish, and TSREADER went blink and was gone.  Tried to restart, and it said that it couldn't enable the tuner   and later gave a source failed to start error too. 
   I tried in a different computer, and the same thing happened.  I tried in a computer where it is installed as a BDM device for use with SmartDVB.  With SmartDVB, it doesn't give the error, but it won't tune any transponders.  
   I went to another computer where it was never installed, and installed the WDM drivers.  It seemed to recognize that the SW was there, and when I started TSREADER, it didn't give me the error message.  However, as soon as I tried to tune a transponder, then TSREADER bombed, and when I tried again to start TSREADER, it gave me the errors mentioned above. 
   I checked the voltage at the coax when USB connecter not connected to computer.  Read zero. I then took the thing downstairs, and plugged the USB cable into the computer, and the voltage at the coax read 13V. I selected a horizontal channel via SmartDVB, but it still read 13V, so SmartDVB wasn't controlling the polarity.  Unpugged the USB and the SW-1, plugged the SW back in, and it read zero.  Plugged in the USB cable, but this time it read zero, so it must be random.  I did notice though that yesterday, when I'd try to scan a transponder with SmartDVB, that it instantly came back with "no signal".  Today, it thinks for a minute or so, then says that it couldn't find PAT/PMT info. However, the S/Q indicated is only 3%.  So it doesn't seem to be getting any signal.
   Anyway, since reloading the drivers didn't help, I was thinking about re-loading the firmware, but I wasn't sure if I wanted to risk that if it wasn't functional.  I'm also not sure what firmware version I have in there, and I'm not sure how to find out.  I think that I upgraded the firmware back when they came out with the capability of doing the 5/6 FEC on turbo transponders.  I THINK that is version 2.13.x from 2010, but I'm not sure. The Genpix page mentions some newer firmware, ie a 2.14 and a 2.16, but neither is available on the web page.  It's not too clear on the web page what version firmware is compatable with what drivers and hardware too, so I'm a bit confused.
   
   I have already ordered a replacement SW-1, but I would really like to get this one going again, even if it only works in slaved mode, but if the tuner won't work, I guess that's getting unlikely.  I guess reloading the firmware is the only hope at this point, unless someone has some ideas.  Most of my tests have been done with the WDM driver with nothing connected to the coax.  

   When my new one comes, it's supposed to come loaded with the 2.16.x, and the web page mentions that it has spectrum scan capabilities if the BDA driver is used.  I'm curious whether this means that it will now work with Crazyscan?   

  

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I found my rev 2 to being acting flakey lately. I went back to the old firmware...and it seems to be better. The newest driver at the genpix site caused a lot of problems for my rev 2 and smartdvb. They all went a way when I went to the windows driver, but then went back to older bda driver and seems to be fine now. Still more sluggish than before but tunes all transponders now.
 
  Here is what I did THAT DID NOT WORK: Replace new bda driver with old bda driver  Problems continued.


 Here is what I did THAT DID WORK: replaced new bda driver with windows driver. ran programs...then replaced windows driver  with old bda driver.

I think the new driver corrupts something in the memory of the unit. You can't just go backwards...you have to clear that type of driver compkletely...then go back to old. 

My experience over the last month only. may be different in your case...but experienced exactly the same thing. Mine is now recovered ...I hope yours does as well.

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I found my rev 2 to being acting flakey lately. I went back to the old firmware...and it seems to be better. The newest driver at the genpix site caused a lot of problems for my rev 2 and smartdvb. They all went a way when I went to the windows driver, but then went back to older bda driver and seems to be fine now. Still more sluggish than before but tunes all transponders now.
 
  Here is what I did THAT DID NOT WORK: Replace new bda driver with old bda driver  Problems continued.


 Here is what I did THAT DID WORK: replaced new bda driver with windows driver. ran programs...then replaced windows driver  with old bda driver.

I think the new driver corrupts something in the memory of the unit. You can't just go backwards...you have to clear that type of driver compkletely...then go back to old. 

My experience over the last month only. may be different in your case...but experienced exactly the same thing. Mine is now recovered ...I hope yours does as well.


Interesting.  That does seem to show that the drivers do seem to have some persistent effect on the device.  I've been using the SW-1 in 4 different computers with different drivers, assuming that the driver effect was gone once you unplugged it, but I guess not.  I think I originally was using the WDM windows driver, but then on another computer experimented using first the old BDA driver, then the new BDA driver, then I stopped using it there, and went back to the original computer using the WDM driver, but today went back to a computer running the old BDA driver....  getting confusing.

  Prior to this latest death of the SW-1, I had a few somewhat exaggerated deaths that lasted anywhere  10 or 20 minutes up to most of a day.  But in the past, leaving the SW-1 unplugged has always fixed the problems. That's in addition to the more common brain dead thing that could be instantly cured by either a power cycle or running that  This time, I've left it unplugged overnight twice, and it didn't help.

  

 Anyway, I will try some more changes of drivers, although I'm now a bit confused re the various versions of drivers I have.  Maybe I'll put off re-loading the firmware until I do some more experiments with the drivers.  
 
  BTW, I'm assuming that your "rev 2"  is rev 2 of the 8PSK-to-USB2 , not the rev 2 of the SW-1 ??? 
I'm not sure what the difference is between the regular SW-1 and SW-1 rev.2 besides the blue case vs a black case.
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yes mine is the revision 2 8psk to usb using DN tuner. 

 If I were you I'd leave it on the original computer, and try loading the windows driver that has been the only one for some time (5-31-2009). Then try loading the old 4-22-2012 bda driver. I'd stay away from the new 3-26-2013 bda.driver.
 
 It putting out voltage says it is still functionally ok, mine wouldn't tune H(18v) for some reason and missed transponders. Also I think the wdm driver is the only one that works with tsreader atleast with mine it is.
 
There is new firmware for genpix as well, and new tsreader source (it did not work with mine).

I think for the older devices it is causing problems with some of the updates.

 My advice to anyone is.....if it is working and doing what you want...don't update.


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yes mine is the revision 2 8psk to usb using DN tuner. 

 If I were you I'd leave it on the original computer, and try loading the windows driver that has been the only one for some time (5-31-2009). Then try loading the old 4-22-2012 bda driver. I'd stay away from the new 3-26-2013 bda.driver.
 
 It putting out voltage says it is still functionally ok, mine wouldn't tune H(18v) for some reason and missed transponders. Also I think the wdm driver is the only one that works with tsreader atleast with mine it is.
 
There is new firmware for genpix as well, and new tsreader source (it did not work with mine).

I think for the older devices it is causing problems with some of the updates.

 My advice to anyone is.....if it is working and doing what you want...don't update.



That 5-31-2009 driver is the one I've been using, and I think it's the one I just installed yesterday on a computer the SW was never used on.  I THOUGHT that I had switched to a new driver when I installed the 2.13.x firmware that did the 5/6 FEC, but apparently not, as I don't see any driver with that date at the web page.  I also don't see any "new firmware", later than the 2010 one, even though the web page mentions newer ones. 
I just put the SW back on the main computer, which has always had that 2009 driver on it.  I just checked, and now, the SW isn't putting out voltage again. 
I just switched to the BDA like you said, but I don't have any program on that computer that will use the BDA, unless TSREADER will work with it using the streamreader.dll.  I tried that, and TSREADER recognized the SW-1, however when I went to tune a transponder, it said no signal.   I did notice though, that after trying this, the SW-1 was now putting out 13V on the coax.
   So I then uninstalled that BDA driver and put the WDM driver back in.  I tried to load TSREADER using the Genpix 1.8 source that I've always used, and it gave me the unable to enable the tuner error it has been giving.   

   I think the only hope is to reload the firmware, but I may think on this for another day.  It's kind of like the SW-1 is talking to the computer OK, but the tuner chips stopped working for some reason.

 
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Wejones,

 try it on a computer with smartdvb. First try the windows driver and  use the genpix selection for tuner. See if that works. If not try the bda and use the florian device for it in smartdvb.  The florian was giving me the problem with the new driver. I then switched to windows driver and used genpix device in selection and worked like a charm. haven't gotten up the nerve to go back to old bda yet and try florian with it.

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Well, after going back and forth between different drivers on different computers, nothing works.

So I decided to _TRY_ to re-load the firmware.
Turns out that you cannot re-load the firmware.  When I tried, it told me that my unit already had the version I was trying to re-load, and it wouldn't let me over-write it. 
So I think I'm dead in the water, at least until they release an updater for the new firmware. Hopefully when that happens, I can update to the new firmware, and it might fix the problems. 


The good news though, is that I received my new replacement SW-1 today.  I haven't installed it yet, because it needs new drivers and sources that weren't compatable with the old Genpix, and I wanted to give it one more try.  I guess I'll un-install it's drivers, and install the new ones now.

The new drivers sound interesting.  Sounds like they should be compatable with Crazyscan, at least in BDA mode.  Talks about signal spectra and constellation diagrams.
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Well, I uninstalled the old SW-1.  Cleared everything out of one of my computers.
Hooked up the new SW-1.
The Genpix site had new BDA driver that it said was compatable with the new firmware that came on the new SW-1. I thought perhaps this driver might work with TSREADER using the Streamreader source.  WRONG.
I loaded in the new BDA driver.
Started up TSREADER specifying the streamreader source......--->  BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH!
Fooey I thought.... hope I didn't hurt the new Genpix.
Uninstalled the BDA driver.
Installed the WDM driver.
Started up TSREADER specifying the 1.10 WDM driver.
TSREADER started up, but when I tried to tune a channel, it wouldn't lock. 
Power cycled the SW-1, but it still wouldn't lock. Unplugged the thing to let it rest.
Then I remembered, that I had switched coaxes, and wasn't connected to the dish I thought I was, so I went downstairs, and switched coaxes.
Came upstairs......   started up TSREADER....    SOURCE FAILED TO INITIALIZE!!!!!!
Fooey, I thought...  I must have somehow burned the thing up already?!?!?!?!?!

Then I looked down, and remembered that I hadn't plugged it in again after the power cycle.
DUHHHHH

Anyway, I plugged it in, and it works fine.    whew.

   I'd really like to know how to utilize the new spectrum and constellation diagram features though. It seemed like they should work with Crazyscan in BDA mode, but I'm not about to try that until I find out what I did wrong with TSREADER/streamreader.  That's the first BSOD I've had in a few years now, and I don't want to see that again, and I assume that if streamreader didn't work with TSREADER, that it wouldn't work with Crazyscan either.

 The description of the two BDA drivers was a bit confusing. It didn't say how to use it, or with what software.  I assume that the Genpix unified source only works with the WDM driver, but maybe that's not right, maybe it will work with either???? 
   Anyway, since I have it working with the WDM driver, I guess I'll just be content until someone else posts on how to use the BDA with either Crazyscan or TSREADER. 

 
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I don't use windows but my sky walker is working fine in Linux so I think it's maybe driver related not firmware

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I have a problem skywalker 1
 
 
I unplugged it the connector part 1234  ,, and then connect it
 
stopped giving a signal satellite
 
led,, green and orange are fixed, then a red light comes out and the three are fixed
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