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midwestmac

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I think the problem is that the original stream only has 1 pid (100) and no PAT, PMT or anything else.


That sounds like one we have here it is only 1 pid (100) I think it might be .lxf or .mxf format. It also might be a mixture of several different formats in that one pid. I sent some sample recordings for Mips to look at of what we have here for analysis.
On some streams His suggestion was to try and catch the stream at the beginning or record it from the beginning. Some streams might be encrypted too.

I remember running it with wine/ipcleaner and it produced one big .dat file, but a year ago I could sometimes get it too play, I don't know if that stream had one format being sent and I caught it at the right time?
Of course there were several small "garbage" sub-streams produced with it that ipcleaner had sorted out at the time.


Other ip streams on other sats might have just a "Null" pid 8191 and one or two (unknown)pids with UDP payload. Or there might be a "unknown" pid with UDP traffic in a 8 channel mux somewhere for example.  Hope that helps..

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If you like, you can check the stream.

Ok, sure if you want you can send link in a PM, or post it here if you want.
Mips is the pro though.[smile]
Is this the first time having a problem with wine? and have other streams played ok I guess?



ADDED: If you can record the pid raw stream untouched by ipcleaner. Then open the recorded .stream file with a hex editor look  for .mxf or .lxf using the "ASCII" search. That is what I look for to know for sure.
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On 12245 H HotBird 13 East now test italian IPTV package. 13E_DVB_MPE.png

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midwestmac

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Was wondering what happen to the data feeds on G28
I can only find 4140 H But I have an old list written down of 
3940 H
4180 V
4120 v
Are these all gone now? Or do I need to keep tuning?

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There are three muxes:

3820 H 30000
DVB-S2 8psk
5/6 FEC
Pilot ON
Pid 260  0x0104

3860 H 30000
DVB-S2 8psk
5/6 FEC
Pilot ON
Pid 5301  0x14B5
Pid 43  0x002B  Stingray.com - Music Channels
Pid 42  0x002A

4140 H 30000
DVB-S2 8psk
5/6 FEC
Pilot ON
Pid 5101  0x13ED

midwestmac

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Thanks! That helps. I couldn't remember what was were, was thinking one was on Vert.
I can get all but that 3820 
My list for g28 is so old I had 3820 v 13749 CSN$ wrote down
if that tells you anything
Thanks

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There are three muxes:

3820 H 30000
DVB-S2 8psk
5/6 FEC
Pilot ON
Pid 260  0x0104

3860 H 30000
DVB-S2 8psk
5/6 FEC
Pilot ON
Pid 5301  0x14B5
Pid 43  0x002B  Stingray.com - Music Channels
Pid 42  0x002A

4140 H 30000
DVB-S2 8psk
5/6 FEC
Pilot ON
Pid 5101  0x13ED



Today I see added

3940 H 30000 S2 8PSK 5/6
PID 5301

Appears to be a duplicate of 3860 H PID 5301. 
photoman76

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Looks like they removed that pid from 3860.

Now using the full transponder on 3940.

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I've been trying to get a mental handle on this subject for some time now and always feel like I'm jumping into the middle of a discussion.  So let's start out with these assumptions:

You have TBS tuner cards in a computer that runs only Ubuntu Server and TVHeadend.  It does not have a desktop.  It does not have Windows, and in fact there are no computers running Windows anywhere at this location.  It does not dual boot, run virtual machines or anything like that.  Nobody connected with this is a Linux expert.  It is just a very basic Ubuntu Server setup running TVHeadend and using TBS cards as the tuners.  TVHeadend normally runs 24/7, except for brief periods when kernel updates are installed and the tuner drivers are rebuilt.

So the question is simple (I hope):  Is there any way to scan these services into TVHeadend and then maybe take the mux output (the "play" link on the muxes page, which looks something like http://192.168.10.150:9981/play/stream/service/some-random-hexadecimal-number?title=%20%2F%20) and convert that to something that would be playable in real time, or that could be recorded?  I see mentions of some people using Linux, but it appears that IPCleaner is Windows only.  So if it is a Windows-only program, I assume you are running it under WINE and therefore I don't suppose you could pipe a stream through it in real time, and anyway I'm not sure if it's even possible to run WINE on Ubuntu Server (again, no desktop and no desire to install one, it's a server).

My first guess would be that no, it's not possible to decode these signals given those constraints, but if I am wrong and someone knows how to do it, I'd like to know.  I could get a lot more enthused, however, if it could somehow be done without having to mess with WINE.  Am I correct in assuming there's still no native Linux equivalent of IPCleaner?

The reason I ask is because if it were possible to somehow pipe the TVHeadend mux through IPCleaner in real time, then in theory you could create an IPTV mux in TVHeadend to run the pipe command and use the resulting stream as a channel, similar to the technique shown in the thread at https://tvheadend.org/boards/4/topics/23907?r=23925, but instead of using ffmpeg in the pipe:// string you'd use IPCleaner.  I could see that maybe working if there were a native Linux version of IPCleaner, but I really doubt it would work that way if WINE has to be used.

Nobody would be more shocked than I if there's actually a way to make this work, but I figure it can't hurt to ask.
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I do something like what you are wanting to do.  I added the muxes into tvheadend then copied the link to play the whole mux from the config > dvb inputs > muxes tab in the tvheadend web gui.  IPcleaner has to be run with wine, however you can install wine and run it without a desktop AFAIK.   I use mkfifo to create a named pipe.  I use curl to stream the mux URL to the named pipe and then IPcleaner reads the data from the named pipe. 

IPcleaner has a hard coded limit of 128 data streams that it will process then it quits dumping streams so I scripted the process to restart once that limit is reached.

Attached is the script I use with tvheadend.  It may give you some ideas.

 
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