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I wonder what he thinks of Lyngsat?

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Oh man....

Gonna say it, guys like that are STUPID!!!

Do they really think that broadcasters/providers/whoever don't know that the signals are ITC and that a handful of us have equipment and actually might tune in?

I've said it so many times, encryption or lack of is done for particular reasons, none of which have anything to do with any of us watching or posting feed or channel finds.

Other than my own this is the ONLY satellite site I visit, post and help out at on a regular basis. Why? Because its an open forum, no hidden back rooms or hoarding knowledge, nice people, good management.

Several of the other non-pirate satellite sites are closed or have little hidden rooms and secret areas. The good ones like Rick's here do not.

The guys who want to hide their wildfeed findings and knowledge certainly have the right to their opinion. Guys like this guy today need to stay at whatever little backroom hidden site they came from, PM's and yelling at members here or elsewhere is beyond ridiculous.

Its a funny thing about those guys and those sites with the hidden feed areas, get into a few of them, you are lucky if they have a few feeds every few days. I guess open places like Rick's here work since there are DOZENS of feeds daily.

And the guy's comments about Rick's stuff being overpriced and posting feeds to sell stuff???

I'm in the business myself, Rick is not overpriced by any means. Prices at his sales site are fair, especially considering the level of support and the free forum he provides. And sorry buddy, posting wildfeeds doesn't translate into sales. Some 40 year olds living in mommy's basement just have too much time on their hands coming up with this crap. LOL.

To make this guy even more happy, time permitting, I'm gonna try and post EVERY feed I find tomorrow here and elsewhere.

Thanks Rick for the forum and the service you provide.


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Sorry to say but is not stupid to think that way either.
For those that started in mid 1990's with a small group of people that paid overprices to import the first FTA receivers and probably found the firsts FTA feeds there ever was in america,is factual and real that making feeds public led to encryption.

Back then,there wasn't much of blind scan equipment,but today,things have changed.
Those that think this wasn't the real scenario,haven't lived the events concerning this matter in the 90"s.(or are exactly the ones that stole those feeds and posted them in public,trying to justify their actions now) ( I must warn you to try to disqualify the statement will lead to contradict many known people in the business,that came from that small group,like Kohl,Hewitt,Remigio,and many others that left the group to become honest dealers,their account is the same as mine)

With the surface of blind scan equipment is a moot point to try to prove the point posting feeds in public lead to encryption,by now,they already assume people is getting those and if they encrypt,is their own agenda.(and I tell you with certainty,providers are also using FTA equipment at their convenience,not strange to find a linux receiver at the downlink, that cost 5 times less than a tandberg to receive a BISS encrypted feed)

Today nothing of this matters,feeds are posted anyway,anywhere,everywhere.
No email will change that,and times change,today is not a bad thing as it was.

But there are things that are undeniable,and those that are old timers know.(I still keep my very first channels list from that time,and have dates when feeds where posted and the short time when they went encrypted,after couple years of fta)

I would ask people to respect this old timers opinions,even though you might not understand where they are coming from.

In the other hand,there should be a mutual understanding,times have changed since then.
Today,is irrelevant to write mails,stay in the shadows,the ideal is to keep what you find and keep your mouth shut,and let things happen.,if the intention is to not make things public.

With all this,I mean,I disagree with all people thinking that posting feeds doesn't affect the encryption,but I know posting feeds in public cannot be stopped.
Is all at the discretion of the person.
There is no reason for name calling,or sending mysterious emails,people can talk and express their opinion publicly,no need to hide.
Shouldn't also attack this site or its administrators.



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It is fine to agree to disagree and be civil about it.

There are many Great people at Satellite Guys and many other Forums.  I have been in discussions with Scott from Satellite Guys about this and he knows where I stand.

There will always be those who want to stir the pot and cause problems for those that they disagree with and over the years, they have done many different things and tried using many different tactics.

The equipment and knowledge of how to use the equipment to get most of the feeds currently, is Much more difficult than back in the old days of analog. 

Most of us do agree that it is Wrong to rub it in a networks face.  Do NOT post information directly to a networks site.  Do NOT call the numbers that show up on the satellite color bars and do NOT contact the networks about the feeds that you do see.

However, this Forum is for the Posting of Legal Free To Air Satellite Feeds.

It is NOT for the Debate as to if that should be done or not.  That has already been decided and that is why this forum is here.

So if you disagree with what this forum is about, then simply don't come here.

Now back to feed hunting and the posting of the feeds that we can find.

It is a GREAT DAY to be ALIVE!

Rick Caylor
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Well put, sir.

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Count me in as a staunch supporter of Rick Caylor, Freedom, this forum and the American Way.

Thanks again Rick for all you do for us and for all you have endured for us.

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we're all behind you Rick ... this is the forum to go to for this kind of information ... sometimes people believe in something, but they are afraid to let it be known, and then there are those who aren't afraid ... that's what this forum is about ... I had a situation a while ago where a bunch of farmers, who were too cheap to build good quality chicken coops, wanted to go out and kill all of the coyotes that were eating their chickens ... I told them "not on my land you don't" ... the feeds are FTA because that is what is economically feasible for the broadcasters ... if they felt that they were losing too much money, they would spend the money to encrypt them ... if we were doing something wrong, they would come down on us ... there are people out there who just can't stand to see anyone having fun, and go out of their way to try to discourage it ... but .. this is the US, and he is entitled to his opinion ... I haven't received a message myself, but if I did, I would respond by trying to help him, try to console him ... just like we help little kids when they come to an incorrect understanding ... we're behind you Rick


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Correct,Rick
There is nothing to debate about this forum and its policies,and people should just let people do what they want to do.
I do think this email was a coward move.

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Most of us do agree that it is Wrong to rub it in a networks face.  Do NOT post information directly to a networks site.  Do NOT call the numbers that show up on the satellite color bars and do NOT contact the networks about the feeds that you do see.

Rick Caylor
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this above should be posted for newbies to see
and be MUST read
i know
but this is how this new fire started.
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Most of us do agree that it is Wrong to rub it in a networks face.  Do NOT post information directly to a networks site.  Do NOT call the numbers that show up on the satellite color bars and do NOT contact the networks about the feeds that you do see.

Rick Caylor
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this above should be posted for newbies to see
and be MUST read
i know
but this is how this new fire started.

Mad,

First, thanks for your help in the forum.

For others who are just reading this, there has been a lot more banter going on that I do not wish to post in this forum.  It is not needed and most of us do not have the time for it.

I wish it was as simple as a newbie not knowing what to do, but I do not believe for a minute that it is as simple as that.  I have had these same type of tactics used against me many times already over the past years.  The many different things that have just recently happened and the timing of them, just does not make common sense that it was done by a newbie.  If it does not make common sense, then it is not right.

Now back to a great day of Satellite Feeds.

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Rick, Honestly I dont know why anyone would stir the pot.  I hope that the member didn't come from satelliteguys or isn't affiliated from there. Scott runs a great site, and I know that in the past you all have had your differences between the way you and Iceberg feel that the areas should be ran.  Both sites are great, but has their upsides.  Honestly does it matter? No because you all are free to run your areas how you wish.  I often find my self coming here for feeds and posting feeds that have yet to be found.  I also find myself going over there for setup info, or just general knowledge that can be found here too.   I have always felt like both of these sites are home when it comes to the years of satellite knowledge represented here and there.  Whom ever it is does need to stop!   Rick, you are blessed with a great group of people here and a great site.   I wish you the best and hope that it continues!  
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Rick, Honestly I dont know why anyone would stir the pot.  I hope that the member didn't come from satelliteguys or isn't affiliated from there. Scott runs a great site, and I know that in the past you all have had your differences between the way you and Iceberg feel that the areas should be ran.  Both sites are great, but has their upsides.  Honestly does it matter? No because you all are free to run your areas how you wish.  I often find my self coming here for feeds and posting feeds that have yet to be found.  I also find myself going over there for setup info, or just general knowledge that can be found here too.   I have always felt like both of these sites are home when it comes to the years of satellite knowledge represented here and there.  Whom ever it is does need to stop!   Rick, you are blessed with a great group of people here and a great site.   I wish you the best and hope that it continues!  

Bob,

I in no way have said that it is anyone from Satellite Guys.  I have no problems with Iceberg or Scott.  Iceberg purchased a receiver from me and so has Scott.  If Iceberg has a problem with me or my site, he has never said it to me when we have talked.  I Personally think that Scott is an Outstanding person.  So just because one or two individuals are trying to cause problems, it will likely not change the way either of our two sites operate.  I say More Power to Satellite Guys and all of their members!

Rick

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When it comes down to it this was an individual who may or may not be a member of any other site as far as we know. And it really doesn't matter. The guy as an individual did the wrong/inappropriate thing at the wrong site for it. Obviously those that come here and participate feel that we should post feeds publicly, no minds will be changed.

I do want to thank Rick and this individual, it encouraged me to double my feed production & posting today, just posted #50 between here and my place.

Thanks again Rick and all those that participate here, for the great site where like minded people can share.


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Rick, Honestly I dont know why anyone would stir the pot.  I hope that the member didn't come from satelliteguys or isn't affiliated from there. Scott runs a great site, and I know that in the past you all have had your differences between the way you and Iceberg feel that the areas should be ran.  Both sites are great, but has their upsides.  Honestly does it matter? No because you all are free to run your areas how you wish.  I often find my self coming here for feeds and posting feeds that have yet to be found.  I also find myself going over there for setup info, or just general knowledge that can be found here too.   I have always felt like both of these sites are home when it comes to the years of satellite knowledge represented here and there.  Whom ever it is does need to stop!   Rick, you are blessed with a great group of people here and a great site.   I wish you the best and hope that it continues!  

Bob,

I in no way have said that it is anyone from Satellite Guys.  I have no problems with Iceberg or Scott.  Iceberg purchased a receiver from me and so has Scott.  If Iceberg has a problem with me or my site, he has never said it to me when we have talked.  I Personally think that Scott is an Outstanding person.  So just because one or two individuals are trying to cause problems, it will likely not change the way either of our two sites operate.  I say More Power to Satellite Guys and all of their members!

Rick


Rick, Yea I just read the extensive thread over there on this,  I'm positive that whom ever it was didn't come from satguys and thanks for clearing that up..   Whom ever it was defiantly is an idiot and needs to be taken behind the wood shack for a good old fashion beating.   Like you, everyone here enjoys seeing the feeds and doesn't want them to go encrypted.  Unfortunately one bad apple runes it for the bunch which is not needed.   I don't  know why in this day in age someone has to act like a child and post the info on speeds or any uplinkers site.  Its a cardinal sin to do that.  Rick you do a great job and if you keep doing good things, well good things will follow you.    I know myself im looking to get onto the up linking side of things (have been for a while now)    And I know from what I have seen from the up link side, idiots like this are taken very seriously and its very possible if stupid stuff like the idiot did could lead to encryption. I dont know how we could defend from this in the future, but the woodshack is a nice idea
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 Iceberg purchased a receiver from me


Yes Rick, he did, a Quali TV, at my recommendation. Now he is bashing your service and business practices. I am sorry for that.



Well, it does not surprise me at all.  I have mentioned again and again about tactics being used and that just proves it even more.  He had called not to long ago about a problem he was having with his Quali-TV and never mentioned a word about his issues with me.

Well, it is time to move on.  If people in other forums want to continue to do those things, they can and they will.  It usually just sends more people to this forum.  There are many smart and bright people that read the threads and can figure out the truth them selves.  I cannot control what other people do and I will not let them control me.  I do not have to defend myself against people like that.

The time we have to enjoy life on Earth is short, so I intend on enjoying it while I am here and I will share information and it has become a great way to meet people that are like minded and develop long lasting friendships.

It is another Beautiful day here in Missouri and a Great Day to be Alive!

Now back to Stalking the Wildfeeds and Backhauls!

Keep your Eyes on the Sky and the Track!

Rick Caylor
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This Tread is now Closed! 


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