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photoman76

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Avail/TVN has changed one of their muxes:

Galaxy 28
3860 H 30000  (SR used to be 26000)
DVB-S2 8psk
5/6 FEC
Pilot ON

They added a pid just for Galaxie.tv Music Channels.
Pid 43  0x002B

There are 53 music channels.

IPCleaner works great with these, but is not really necessary.
Recording the UDP payloads in TSReader IP/DVB mode and playing with VLC also works fine.
Art1

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Cool I will check these out. Thanks!
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Another way to play this directly is to use the TSREADER "retransmit" function.  

I've described this in another thread that I just started, at:

http://rickcaylor.websitetoolbox.com/post/tsreaderwinxp-again-6790881?pid=1281833146#post1281833146

The problem is, that I can only get it to work when using a Win-2000 computer.  When I try to use one of my Win-XP computers, TSREADER either pops up an error message or bombs completely. 

I'm really curious whether it's just my systems, or if other people see the same behavior? 

It's really kind of neat.   A very nice way to start the stream, and then play it on any device on your LAN.   But it's really annoying that TSREADER doesn't seem to be compatible with XP. 

I'm hoping that there is some service running on XP that is interferring with several things that TSREADER is trying to do, but I haven't found anything yet.

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Thank you so much for finding this photoman. I have been missing my music channels. I like the video pics that are displayed also. Hope it stays a while.
DarkSky

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Here is a list by streams as spit out by clean_ts_dump on linux:

Edit:
I noticed the streams order changed when I ran clean_ts_dump for the second time.

 
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So what you are saying is that you can't play these "live" like Muzak, you have to record them and clean them and then play them?  I see the PID in Trans edit, but that's about it.  Would like to get galaxie.  I don't have TS reader.

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Here is a list by streams as spit out by clean_ts_dump on linux:

Edit:
I noticed the streams order changed when I ran clean_ts_dump for the second time.


I was just about to ask if the order changed.  Thanks.

I'm curios what you fed into the clean_ts_dump?  Ie the whole stream or just the PID 43? 

I recorded a bunch of PID 43, and I didn't find any text that looked like what you found, so I'm wondering where it is found?  

I'd like to find a correspondence between the channel names you found and the destination IP#, but I'm not getting anywhere.


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With my Prof8000 I am in TSReader looking at 3860/H/30000 and I see a PAT PID 0x0000, a TDT PID 0x0014, a CAT PID 0x0001, a SDT PID 0x0011 <2> and a NIT PID 0x0010 <4>.

Am I using the wrong tuner, or is the "Pid 43 0x002B" no longer there?

EDIT:  Please disregard.  I saw what I was doing wrong.  Now I see the 0x002b PID.


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follow the link in post #3 from wejones
he explains what to do
0x002b is still there

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With my Prof8000 I am in TSReader looking at 3860/H/30000 and I see a PAT PID 0x0000, a TDT PID 0x0014, a CAT PID 0x0001, a SDT PID 0x0011 <2> and a NIT PID 0x0010 <4>.

Am I using the wrong tuner, or is the "Pid 43 0x002B" no longer there?

EDIT:  Please disregard.  I saw what I was doing wrong.  Now I see the 0x002b PID.



It's still there.  

What do you see if you click on the NIT over to the left?  It shows me that I'm on the 89 sat.
After the PIDs you mention, I see 42, 43, 1000, 4100,4101,4102,4103,4115,4610,4611,4612,4615,5301.
Could you be on the wrong sat?  Or possibly the wrong polarity, and the Prof is grabbing 3880 or 3840? 

TSREADER also shows two encrypted video channels.  The three data PIDs are 42, 43, and 5301.



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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkSky
Here is a list by streams as spit out by clean_ts_dump on linux:

Edit:
I noticed the streams order changed when I ran clean_ts_dump for the second time.


I was just about to ask if the order changed.  Thanks.

I'm curios what you fed into the clean_ts_dump?  Ie the whole stream or just the PID 43? 

I recorded a bunch of PID 43, and I didn't find any text that looked like what you found, so I'm wondering where it is found?  

I'd like to find a correspondence between the channel names you found and the destination IP#, but I'm not getting anywhere.


Acually I am recording all 53 Music Channels at once; I used this:

./clean_ts_dump 3860 43

I changed the -s 20000 in bluzee's script to -s 30000 for the sr:

/usr/bin/dvbstream -f $FREQUENCY -s 30000  -o $PID

I am recording because I am afraid it will not stay fta for long. Wanted to have a good collection of music with the nice pictures. I'm up to 30 gigs after about 5 hours.

The Holiday Hits are playing some really good songs. I am listening to Meatloaf right now.

I opened up each stream with vlc to get the names.

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photoman76

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The Galaxie.tv music channels have been FTA for years.
They are still in another Avail/TVN mux at:
Galaxy 28
4040 V 30000
DVB-S2 8psk
Pid 42  0x002A
There are a number of encrypted channels in this pid also.
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So what you are saying is that you can't play these "live" like Muzak, you have to record them and clean them and then play them?  I see the PID in Trans edit, but that's about it.  Would like to get galaxie.  I don't have TS reader.



Unfortunately I have not been able to play these live or semi-live in Windows XP.
If you select pid 43 in Transedit and "Start Recording"  and then go to the recorded file and run IPCleaner on it, you will get 53 substreams.  If you click on a substream running VLC it will play until it gets to the point where you started IPCleaner and then it stops playing.  I understand that in Linux it will play forever, but I'm such a dunce when it comes to Linux that I've never been able to make it work.[frown]
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tune-s2 3860 H 30000
sudo -s
(enter password)
dvbnet -p 43
ifconfig dvb0_0 192.168.238.238 hw ether 00:01:02:03:04:05 promisc up
route add -net 224.0.0.0 netmask 240.0.0.0 dev dvb0_0
echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/rp_filter
echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/dvb0_0/rp_filter
exit
mplayer -cache 1500 udp://224.0.255.110:5500

Bluegrass [smile]


PS:  If you are not sure what this does.. 

dvbnet creates network adapter dvb0_0 and filter pid 43 to it.
the ifconfig line assigns an IP address MAC address to the adapter and brings it up
route command to route multicast to the dvb0_0 adapter.
next two lines turns reverse path filtering off on the dvb0_0 adapter


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So what you are saying is that you can't play these "live" like Muzak, you have to record them and clean them and then play them?  I see the PID in Trans edit, but that's about it.  Would like to get galaxie.  I don't have TS reader.



Unfortunately I have not been able to play these live or semi-live in Windows XP.
If you select pid 43 in Transedit and "Start Recording"  and then go to the recorded file and run IPCleaner on it, you will get 53 substreams.  If you click on a substream running VLC it will play until it gets to the point where you started IPCleaner and then it stops playing.  I understand that in Linux it will play forever, but I'm such a dunce when it comes to Linux that I've never been able to make it work.[frown]


Thanks for a clear concise explanation to my question!

Well I got this thing working and the pictures are real purty, but I have to agree with photoman, when ipcleaner "cleans" in in 445kb blocks you're enjoying only about 10 seconds of music.  It looks like there would be a way to remove the "governor" in windows using ip cleaner so it would clean the entire file.  Is there a reason for this???


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