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Well digging up and removing these clothes line poles has become the price for getting a free dish.
The dish has 14 ribs and I guess the moss side should point north when dish is aligned.
Nice mount system though. The mesh has very few hail dents so this one is going to be installed.
Dish is aluminum and the mount parts are mostly all casting with SS hardware.
Was just three miles away and my handyman jack made removing the poles an easy job.
Included was a 24 inch Von Wise motor and several dead bees under the weather cover.
Free was a nice price to pay for the whole system. (lucky bob is my name)
The mounting pole is 4.5 inches where the cast mount attaches.

The last owner had asked about his dish two years ago so I gave him one of my Pansat 3500 receivers
to use. When he was done he gave me back the receiver and the whole dish system plus the bonus
clothes line 3.5 inch wide poles. I never met a cute dish I did not want to take home. Now that I am older,
all the "dishes" turn out to be related to sat signal collection.

I removed the clothes line poles by pulling them over via the handyman jack chained to the sat dish pole.
Then just pulled up with the jack to get the sat dish pole out of the dirt. Easy deal indeed. I wish we "could just buy"
holes in a can at the store. You set the "can" where you want a hole in your yard and "pop the top" then
remove the can and you have a hole the size claimed on the can instructions. No Digging needed just set and
pop the top. I see real market sales potential here with this product.

The army once experimented with such a product to self dig fox holes. But a loud bang was part of the device.

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Thanks again for the stories Bob, you are a riot. You should write a book...maybe make it a childrens book with pictures, call it "Bob's Big Dish Adventures" [wink]

The "handyman jack" is that what they call also a "farm jack"...I been thinking about getting one.  Any suggestions of where and which one to get...seems 48" is pretty common, does it really make a difference who sells/makes it?  I'd hate to get one that turns out to be junk!

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I think many farm supply stores sell the handyman jack. Also it is often seen mounted on a Jeep front bumper to help unstick a jeep in the mud or a hole.

Books have been written about me. "Mental Disorders" and "Hoarding" just to name two.

Some day I will have to give away a few of these sat dishes from days gone by.
That's covered under-----"from my cold dead hands" for giving up these sat dishes.

I need make a U Tube video on how to remove and save a sat dish rather than ram it with a big truck.
I try to "share" the joy of living when ever I can.

These jacks are very tough, but I have a bend now in mine. Stuff happens!

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I see now the dish is a RAYDX from Ocala Florida. The declination is set by the nuts in the slotted casting at both top and bottom. The moving points have large bronze bushing to reduce wear and friction. This is a very well made product from 1985. (likely made in the USA)

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I see now the dish is a RAYDX from Ocala Florida. The declination is set by the nuts in the slotted casting at both top and bottom. The moving points have large bronze bushing to reduce wear and friction. This is very well made product for 30 years ago. (likely made in the USA)

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Great story. Here is a picture I borrowed which shows the mount when installed. Thanks to those who supplied this info about the Raydx sat dish.

 
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Great story. Here is a picture I borrowed which shows the mount when installed.


That guy is still in the business down here!!  course now it's pizza dishes...LOL

That pic is awesome, is that thing as good as it looks?  Looks very well made

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I am also interested in the how to with a jack please take a pix and could you be a bit more specific about "Then just pulled up with the jack to get the sat dish pole out of the dirt. "  attached how ?
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I would say the Raydx dish is well made. Good luck finding one for free as I have just done. (these dishes just follow me home)

I just dig around the pole enough to get a heavy chain below where a little taper is on the cement. These jacks were once a farmers best friend. They have easy lock (cam operation) to grip onto fence or barbed wire and pull it tight.

For post pulling you just get the chain around the post very low and then around the "nose" on the jack. You have to keep the top of the jack from falling over. I tie if off on the sat dish pole but such that is can slip past as the pole moves up.

When I use it to "pull over" it is like with the wire pulling but I use a heavy auto strap and the heavy chain. Two years back I got the 5.5 inch pole for one of my 11 foot dishes out of the ground by pulling from a electrical pole which was very stiff and not going to go any place. That sat pole finally just leaned  over and then pulled out of the dirt. Seemed easy at the time.

These jacks are real tough. Usually takes two or more people to load up the pole when still covered in cement into the trailer. A big hammer will remove the cement and the pole is ready for the next new install in your own yard. But depending on soil type it may require more digging at some locations.

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The "handyman jack" is that what they call also a "farm jack"...I been thinking about getting one.  Any suggestions of where and which one to get...seems 48" is pretty common, does it really make a difference who sells/makes it?  I'd hate to get one that turns out to be junk! 


techjunkie02 -

I have a "Hi-Lift jack XT605" that I bought from Amazon that I am very happy with - it's a heavy-duty 60" jack and well built. I was going to buy a generic jack from Harbor Freight for $50, but thought I should spend a few more $$ and get something really solid, and am very happy that I did.

The XT605 is on sale on Amazon now for under $100 with free shipping - at that price I will probably buy a second one - and that's got to be not a whole lot more than what it cost them to ship it, because it's big and heavy.

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Hey boblop, can I get a close-up picture of the feedhorn and LNB on that dish?

If that's a Drake model 2574 LNA (100° noise temp) and N-connector on a Chaparral PR-I E/A feedhorn, then that looks exactly like what I just bought on ebay (were you the seller?):

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It is a Drake 2776 lnb with 45 degrees rating and an F connector. I had stuck it on my friends dish 2 years ago. He used my Pansat 3500 to control the servo motor. But no I currently have not sold on E Bay. I am still in full HOARDER mode.

Back to the jack. The dish pole must have had over 150 pounds of cement stuck to it. After we had it out of the ground the two of us guys barely could lift it into my trailer. I broke off the cement while it was still in the trailer. Pipe is still heavy enough.

With out that jack I would not be offering to take out the posts for all those people.

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Thanks Bob, I agree with Techjunkie you should write a book. DON't stop! Your a great story teller. Always enjoy reading your posts.
By the way thanks for the Dish and jack pictures. The jack pic gives me some good ideas whenever I need to pull a post up.
It looks like a Beefed up car "bumper jack" I think? That they used to sell with cars back in the day. 
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Well there are more than one manufacturer of those farm jacks. On mine it is two heavy .56 inch across harden steel pins which "walk" through the bar as the jack handle is operated. Simple springs and levers hold and pull these pins in and out which makes the jack climb or pull. My jack is more than 50 years old.

Today I took the time to hook up my latest Von Wise motor to the Hytek C/100 dish mover controller. It is mostly a big power transformer and a forward and reverse relay with a control switch and a three digit red led display which counts the pulses coming from the motor reed switch. There was a 9 volt battery clipped on the back of the Hytek which would be used if one had an optical sensor.

I wish I had several more of these units. No remote control and no sat name just that 3 digit count of the position of the motor. Perfect if I had two of them to control my 2 axis Ku dish. Should be a good project to build a few more of these 30 year old devices. Remember 30 years back people would watch their analog tv screen and move the dish and watch for a channel to appear. Many of those first sat receivers did not have a built in motor control method. Just the servo control and knob you turn. Most early day sat had something on almost all 24 channels. Will open the box and see what they used for a counting chip back when.

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Do I really need the 5 footer... can I do enough with the 4 foot model??

Thanks for the info!


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The "handyman jack" is that what they call also a "farm jack"...I been thinking about getting one.  Any suggestions of where and which one to get...seems 48" is pretty common, does it really make a difference who sells/makes it?  I'd hate to get one that turns out to be junk! 


techjunkie02 -

I have a "Hi-Lift jack XT605" that I bought from Amazon that I am very happy with - it's a heavy-duty 60" jack and well built. I was going to buy a generic jack from Harbor Freight for $50, but thought I should spend a few more $$ and get something really solid, and am very happy that I did.

The XT605 is on sale on Amazon now for under $100 with free shipping - at that price I will probably buy a second one - and that's got to be not a whole lot more than what it cost them to ship it, because it's big and heavy.

Highly recommended.




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