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a lot of  Thanks goes to Taylor for pointing me into the right are to figure this out.

1 thing I did not like with the xml file was their satellite names, they have the same name for each sat at that orbital location like "AMC 1/Spaceway 1 & DirecTV 10/12 (103.0W)", and now I have in my ME here with AMC 1 C-band, and AMC 1 Ku-band, so you can tell with ease what satellite you're going too. also I even changed TP info in it too, like the CW's on G-17 that have change frequency an modulation. I even added Sat's to its list that are not available with the xml generator along with the TP's for that sat too.

this is so easy its unbelievable this is. what and how you do it.
1st down load a satellite list from the xml generator.
now open that file in the puter with note pad, right click with the mouse with a windows puter.
now its as simple as just back spacing and typing in a sat name.
do the same for changing TP info also, but make sure you keep the ", <, >, in place, if you happen to delete them just reenter it with the puter.
when you're all done just click the file button an "SAVE", NOT SAVE AS,  the "save as" changes the file from xml to txt, noticed this right off the bat when playing with it.

Adding a Satellite.
copy and paste is the fastest here, I first tried by typing the name, degree location, and TP info in and it took a lot of time. if you pick a satellite and just copy and paste it in its degree line up for that location, then just change the satellite name, degree location, band, and transponder info, you will find that this way is so much faster.1 key thing by going this route, its position must match its degree location to be in the right line up in the ME after channels are scan in. like in my case I added AMC-4 @ 67w, so the position number (not the degree location) is 67.0 for the 1st satellite, and 67.1 for the second satellite, and if their a 3rd satellite at that orbital location its position number will be a .2.

I have been using a modified list for 2 days now with out any problems with the ME receiver. now the next to figure out is how to save and edits a scan satellite list from the ME, so I can edit some of the channel names to what they are instead of just a frequency number like their displayed on some channels.
hope this info helps some of you ME users out.

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Captain,

Try this free software.  It is a lot easier to change things in it than notepad.  I have been using it for a while now and it works great.

http://free.editix.com/download.html

Now as for the switching, that's another issue.  I read you other post and have tried everything to get this box to switch from c to ku like the elite did but it won't.  I have tried every setting in the thing with no luck.  I hope they fix the fw soon.

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Thanks for the link Ricardo, I will down load it a give it a shot.

Ricardo now as far as switching its not a problem here, so far I am switching 4-cband ports, 2 ku-port's w/LO of 10750, 2 fixed Ku-dishes, 3 universal lb move-able dishes, and 1 90cm move-able dish with a QPF-031, all are feed into 8 4x8-multi-switches, that will switch great with no lag time. and all works with OpenRSI fw, an RTI enigma 2fw, my only problem with switching is the 5 other ports I need to figure out to get to work with the ME.
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Glad notepad didn't screw that file up for you.  A lot of times it will mess up the line endings converting them from unix line ends to dos line ends.

I'd also suggest grabbing a nicer text editor.  There are lots available that will automatically highlight the source and colour the text in the editor to make it much easier to see what you are doing.

I didn't like the multiple satellite names on some of the orbital locations either. First thing I did was go in and delete all the DirectTV, Nimiq and what not extraneous names.

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Captain,

Try this free software.  It is a lot easier to change things in it than notepad.  I have been using it for a while now and it works great.

http://free.editix.com/download.html

Now as for the switching, that's another issue.  I read you other post and have tried everything to get this box to switch from c to ku like the elite did but it won't.  I have tried every setting in the thing with no luck.  I hope they fix the fw soon.


Here is a post from Pwrsurge (on satelliteguys.us) on how to get the AzBox me to switch C/KU bands using DiseqC and 22KHz switches.

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There is currently no option to specifically toggle 22Khz at the moment but this will be soon added in future releases. However, you can still use a system with a 22Khz switch by adjusting the LNB switch frequency in Antenna Settings for specific satellites as follows:

10750 system with 22Khz on:
LNB low band frequency: 10750
LNB high band frequency: 10750
LNB switch frequency: 11700

10750 system with 22Khz off:
LNB low band frequency: 10750
LNB high band frequency: 10750
LNB switch frequency: 12700

5150 system with 22Khz on:
LNB low band frequency: 5150
LNB high band frequency: 5150
LNB switch frequency: 3600

5150 system with 22Khz off:
LNB low band frequency: 5150
LNB high band frequency: 5150
LNB switch frequency: 4200


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PwrSurge
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In addition to the settings above here is what your "Committed DiseqC command" line should look like for a 4x1 DiseqC switch. Do not use the input 1, 2,3 & 4 etc option instead use:
AA = 1 on a DiseqC switch
AB = 2 on a DiseqC switch
BA = 3 on a DiseqC switch
BB = 4 on a DiseqC switch

Edit: Captain has more switch info here too.

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here is a up-date on editing transponder info in the xml file, for what the numbers in their lines do.

Frequency
this is the down link frequency it must have 3-zeros after it (like 3815000).

Symbol Rate
also needs 3-zeros after the correct sr is entered.

Polarization
0=Horizontal
1=Vertical

FEC_Inner
0-auto
1= 1/2
2= 2/3
3= 3/4
4= 5/6
5= 7/8
6= 8/9
7= 3/5
8= 4/5
9= 9/10

System
this is you're S2 option
0=off or plain QPSK
1-on

Modulation
this is for S2, 8PSK, and QPSK settings.
1= QPSK or S2 QPSK
2= S2 8PSK



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babadem,

Thanks for the information.  I will give it a try and I sure hope it will work for me.  It is a pain to swap the cables.

Edit :  babadem,  That worked like a champ.  That is the first time I have actually been able to use a switch on the ME.  I was setting the frequencies wrong.  Many thanks to you and captain.

You guys are great.



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this post here was for the AZME, but now I have a Octagon all this info works for it too. here I have been updating my satellite XML file and I ran into a small snag, and that is what setting is used in the XML file for 16apsk, it has to be either in the "Modulation" or "System" or may be both of them combined.
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this post here was for the AZME, but now I have a Octagon all this info works for it too. here I have been updating my satellite XML file and I ran into a small snag, and that is what setting is used in the XML file for 16apsk, it has to be either in the "Modulation" or "System" or may be both of them combined.



Ok here is a update, this is for you guys that edit you're satellite XML file to get a 16apsk or a 32apsk transponder. I thought that some one wood post the info after a wile so I didn't mess a receiver up but I decided to try it with the AZME 1st because I know how to get it back to life.

 in the modulation settings is where you change the settings, and here are the settings for what you want the XML file to tell the receiver what to lock for that TP.

Modulation
1=OPSK
2=S28PSK
3=QAM16
4=S2 16APSK
5=S2 32APSK

I tested these out and they work fine in the Octagon, so now my XML file is up to date with all 24/7 TPs that are up as of today.
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