Welcome to GOFASTMOTORSPORTS.com ... ... ... Green Flag - Green Flag - Go Go Go ... ... Brought to you by Ricks Satellite - Where the Big Dish Rules!

Ricks Satellite Wildfeed and Backhaul Forum
Register Latest Topics
 
 
 


Reply
  Author   Comment  
jrb3059

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 91
Reply with quote  #1 
Where I can find the biss plugin and how can I install it???
Arion

Registered:
Posts: 89
Reply with quote  #2 
Those plugins I believe are to illegally decrypt a Biss encryption scheme.  If there is no 'legal' way to decrypt the broadcast then I don't think that Rick allows such talk here.
__________________
10' Tek2000 mesh dish, 36" superjack actuator, Vbox, Titanium LNB, Icecrypt CHD3750 dual tuner STB, 1.2 meter motorized KU band dish.
big_hemi

Avatar / Picture

Moderator
Registered:
Posts: 4,892
Reply with quote  #3 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrb3059
Where I can find the biss plugin and how can I install it???

Unless you legitimately have the BISS key, any discussion of trying to view encrypted of feeds is not permitted.


Quote:
Originally Posted by RickCaylor
BISS is a form of encryption that is mostly used for commercial applications.  This allows the companies to assign a set of encryption keys in their encoders and for the receiving location to put the same keys in their decoders and allow them to receive the encrypted signals.

Yes, there are plug in options in many receivers that would allow the reception of BISS, if you had the keys.

They can use different codes or change the codes whenever they wish.

And of course, this site does not endorse the use of any satellite equipment to illegally unencrypt, encrypted feeds.

Thanks,

Rick Caylor
Ricks Satellite

__________________
10' Winegard - BSC621 C/Ku LNBF - Venture MA818-B24 - V-Box 7 - 8x1 Switch
1.2m Prodelin @ 103W | 90CM @ 72W | 1m Muzak @ 91W | 1m DS3100 (HH120 motor) | All Avenger Universal Ku LNBF's
Icecrypt 3750 & 1600 - Linkbox 9000i Local - AZbox ME (OpenATV 3.3.1) - Prof 7500 - Wetek - Slingbox HD Pro
RickCaylor

Avatar / Picture

Moderator
Registered:
Posts: 8,058
Reply with quote  #4 
I sell many receivers to Uplinkers and TV Stations that require and use BISS.  Many receivers today have BISS embedded in them.  

There was a BISS plug in for the AZ Box to allow it to do BISS and it was a popular unit for us when the company was still in business and at that time, you could connect to the Internet and download the Plug In from the receiver.  But I don't think that is the case any more and I don't know where you can find that plug in now, as the sites that I used to know that hosted it, no longer do.

Discussion of various encryption types are fine.  Hacking discussions are not.

Thanks everyone!

Happy 4th of July Weekend!

__________________

Sorry, but I do not use the PM (Private Messenger).
Please e-mail me if need to make contact @ rickcaylor@aol.com.
Keep your eyes on the Sky!

gopher

Registered:
Posts: 406
Reply with quote  #5 
What receivers do you sell that can do BISS?

Quote:
Originally Posted by RickCaylor
I sell many receivers to Uplinkers and TV Stations that require and use BISS.  Many receivers today have BISS embedded in them.  

There was a BISS plug in for the AZ Box to allow it to do BISS and it was a popular unit for us when the company was still in business and at that time, you could connect to the Internet and download the Plug In from the receiver.  But I don't think that is the case any more and I don't know where you can find that plug in now, as the sites that I used to know that hosted it, no longer do.

Discussion of various encryption types are fine.  Hacking discussions are not.

Thanks everyone!

Happy 4th of July Weekend!
EmilNJ

Avatar / Picture

Moderator
Registered:
Posts: 3,614
Reply with quote  #6 
Quote:
What receivers do you sell that can do BISS?


The Icecrypt 1600CHD SE, Icecrypt 3750CHD, and Linkbox 9000i for sure have that feature.  

Emil

__________________
Icecrypt 1600 CHD SE, Icecrypt 3750 CHD, Linkbox 9000i Local, Wetek Play, SYNOQ SR1, 2 AZBOX ME's, AZBOX Premium Plus & Elite HD, Manhattan RS1933, Openbox S10, Vantage HD1100S, Prof 7500, Pansat 9200HD w/S2+board, 2 Quali-TV's, Sonicview 8000HD, Toshiba TRX 2220, Motorola DSR905, 10ft Winegard, 90cm Ariza, etc.......
Stefan2k15

Registered:
Posts: 43
Reply with quote  #7 
Biss is an open standard and really any receiver should be able to support it legally, if the manufacturer chooses to implement it. Biss is really just CSA or common scrambling algorithm which is part of the DVB standard. Biss just uses a fixed control word that doesn't change and the even and odd control word are the same. Even the open source video player VLC supports Biss or "CSA". You just have to dig through the advanced options to find it. Anyway, that's why Biss is used so much for wildfeeds like this, because it's kind of an open standard and is therefore supported by many different commercial receivers.  Proprietary encryption systems are usually limited to receivers made by the companies that own the rights to the encryption system.

Note that by supporting Biss we mean that the receiver can decrypt the feed, IF you have the control Word. That's all it means. It doesn't mean, it will find the control word for you. That would be illegal and it would also require massive processing power that no satellite STB in existence has.
Pops

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 1,625
Reply with quote  #8 
Quote:
The Icecrypt 1600CHD SE, Icecrypt 3750CHD, and Linkbox 9000i for sure have that feature.  

EmilNj, what are you saying, that those of us with Icecrypts can watch a BISS scrambled signal somehow?  
 

__________________
"My neighbors cut down their weeping willow and GO CUBS! "
EmilNJ

Avatar / Picture

Moderator
Registered:
Posts: 3,614
Reply with quote  #9 
Quote:
EmilNj, what are you saying, that those of us with Icecrypts can watch a BISS scrambled signal somehow?


If you legally have the BISS Key yes you can.  That's why you will see consumer receivers in satellite trucks.  The engineer simply puts their  BISS Key into the receiver and can monitor the feed they are uplinking.  It is an inexpensive cost compared to a commercial receiver for them.  

Emil

__________________
Icecrypt 1600 CHD SE, Icecrypt 3750 CHD, Linkbox 9000i Local, Wetek Play, SYNOQ SR1, 2 AZBOX ME's, AZBOX Premium Plus & Elite HD, Manhattan RS1933, Openbox S10, Vantage HD1100S, Prof 7500, Pansat 9200HD w/S2+board, 2 Quali-TV's, Sonicview 8000HD, Toshiba TRX 2220, Motorola DSR905, 10ft Winegard, 90cm Ariza, etc.......
Stefan2k15

Registered:
Posts: 43
Reply with quote  #10 
I believe Al Bundy was using an AZbox with the Biss plug-in to monitor his feeds at one point in time. At least, he seem to indicate that in some posts he made either here or in another forum. Anyway, as I said early, even VLC can be used for Biss. It's in the advanced preferences and referred to as CSA key. It's in the setting under Access Modules>demuxers> MPEG-TS>CSA key. There's nothing at all illegal about a receiver, or software, supporting Biss as it's an open standard.
gopher

Registered:
Posts: 406
Reply with quote  #11 
Anyone know if the Traxis DBS6000HD has a biss plug-in?
jrb3059

Avatar / Picture

Registered:
Posts: 91
Reply with quote  #12 
Rick I was hoping you had it on usb I do have legitimate use for it
all links to azbox are dead
RickCaylor

Avatar / Picture

Moderator
Registered:
Posts: 8,058
Reply with quote  #13 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrb3059
Rick I was hoping you had it on usb I do have legitimate use for it
all links to azbox are dead


I will search to see if I can find you any options.

__________________

Sorry, but I do not use the PM (Private Messenger).
Please e-mail me if need to make contact @ rickcaylor@aol.com.
Keep your eyes on the Sky!

Previous Topic | Next Topic
Print
Reply

Quick Navigation:

Easily create a Forum Website with Website Toolbox.

Fellow Members, your posts are welcome here! Do not worry about posting everything perfect. Different receivers and LNB's will give you different Frequencies and Symbol Rates. Some set top boxes, PCI cards and USB receivers, Do Not Require all of the same information that others may need. It is not Required to post everything that others may need to tune in a feed. It is just most important to share the find. We can always adjust the Frequency and Symbol Rates and try the various Modulations and FEC's on our own receivers until we get a lock and then give a polite reply with what works for your receiver, as that information might help others as well. We all appreciate the efforts and energy of the Posters!

Thank You for Visiting GOFASTMOTORSPORTS.com - Keep Your Eyes on the Sky and the Track!