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Emil,

I get c band blind scan to work with aztrino 1.82 NA and it works great but I am having problems with ku.  I get it to scan in the blind scan mode and set the limits lnb low band 10750, lnb hi band 10750 and switch frequency to 12200.  I even tried switch frequency at 11700.  It see some channels when it scans but won't lock them.  Any thing you think I am missing?  I can do a sat scan on ku band and it will find the sats on my list but not in blind scan.
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rcard007,

I don't know what type of switch or switches you use so I can't comment on that.  My setup uses standard C & Ku Lnb's and a 0/22Khz switch.

My setup for AZtrino 1.82 NA for Ku is as follows.  I have Diseqc set to off,  10750 for both the LO and High, and 10600 for the switch setting.  I have the switch setting at 10600 because whenever I would Blind Scan anything  it was off by 150 MHz higher than it should be frequency wise if I had that set to 10750.  Putting it to 10600 makes the frequency exactly what it should be for my standard Ku LNB with an LO of 10750.

Also when I blind scan Ku in that menu I have the 0/22 KHz switch set to ON and for C I have it set to off since that is how I have my switch setup physically.

You may need to also do a full power down if it will seem to Blind Scan in the transponders and then when it goes through them it finds no channels.  That was a common issue with previous version of AZtrino NA but is much improved.  It still happens now but less infrequent. 

Since you can scan in C-Band it must be a switch or setting issue.

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I can't seem to find the 0/22KHz switch setting in AZTrino.  Can anyone give me some insight?

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Never mind.  I was using v1.6, not v1.82.  Upgrading to the newest version took care of it.

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.  The list is updated daily the site states.  There are editors but I chose not to use one.  Once Blind Scan works for the NA Market all you would need is to pick the satellites you want, configure them, and just Blind Scan them.

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Emil,
did they ever get blind scan to work on the ME.  I have a chance to get one and I'm very interested in it. However from everything I read in your receiver review, this thing looks to be a major headache!
I have not problem work simple consumer receivers and I had no problem getting my AZBx Premium up and running with Ricks Quick Start and support.  but I'm concerned that this receiver is a headache and I don't need anymore than I already have.
Your guidance is appreciated.
Thanks
Carol
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Yes they have got blindscan working well in OpenATV 3.0.  Read in the thread below for details.

http://rickcaylor.websitetoolbox.com/post/blind-scanner-6535414

I don't know what you consider a headache so I can't comment on that.  There are many versions of images for the ME and different kernel versions so it can be daunting to some.  What you have to consider is that it is so much more than a satellite receiver.  The firmware is Enigma 2 based and since there are numerous versions of it, and each has some differences for some it isn't easy to use.  Once you understand the basics of Enigma 2 firmware they are basically the same. There is no manual for the firmwares out so it's pretty much from using it  and reading up in the forum.


Since the ME is no longer made if you really want it grab it if you have a chance to. 

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Yes they have got blindscan working well in OpenATV 3.0.  Read in the thread below for details.

http://rickcaylor.websitetoolbox.com/post/blind-scanner-6535414

I don't know what you consider a headache so I can't comment on that.  There are many versions of images for the ME and different kernel versions so it can be daunting to some.  What you have to consider is that it is so much more than a satellite receiver.  The firmware is Enigma 2 based and since there are numerous versions of it, and each has some differences for some it isn't easy to use.  Once you understand the basics of Enigma 2 firmware they are basically the same. There is no manual for the firmwares out so it's pretty much from using it  and reading up in the forum.


Since the ME is no longer made if you really want it grab it if you have a chance to. 

Emil


THANK YOU EMAIL FOR YOUR REPLY: Rick speaks most highly of you.
I love this hobby and I'm not usually afraid to invest into something new, for that reason I'm game to pick up a AZbx/ME while the opportunity presents itself.   And I'm glad to hear the blind scan is working as that saves on the headaches getting it up and running.

I guess to be very candid I'm just reluctant to have to blast this thing with new firmware and all the updates if things keep changing that I have been reading about here on the forum.  I bought a AZbx Premium+_ from Rick about a month ago and I really like it, did not have any problem getting it up and running with Rick's quick start and PDF manual.  I guess it just gives me the creeps that the ME doesn't even have a manual.

I do realize it's out of production.  Am I right in that some other sites are still keeping up firmware updates for the ME/bx?  I clicked on a few of the links here and it looked like there were various firmware and kernel updates from third party vendors, so considering that I'm assuming there is still some interest and support in this box.

Lastly maybe you can answer two last questions I have at the moment.
Is there that much difference or benefits to be gained by using the ME over the Premium+ ?
As a hobbyist I like to scan the skies for the unusual back feeds and what have you. 4:2:2 and anything the average MPEG2 receiver can not do.  The premium box was not all that hard to get up and running on NBC / G19 and what have you.  I AM STILL HAVING PROBLMES STREAMING VIDEO OUT OF THE THING! DON'T KNOW WHY AND IT'S NOT FOR A LACK OF TRYING! - FTP is all working over the network and I can get into the recorded files and see what is going on in the premium box over my browser. 
So I'm basically very satisfied with the premium for that reason. The video is just beautiful.

So I guess the real question: Is it much better than the premium+
Last question, what do you know abut the AZmini/ME.  From everything I'm reading about it, the thing comes with NTSC as it's default and it's set up for North America.   

So if I have not confused you enough, I suppose those are my last questions.
Thanks again Emil.

Got to run.
Rgds
CLM

 

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I have to say that the ME is in my opinion a much better receiver than the Premium Plus.  They both are very nice but the ME is much newer and has a much better processor and more memory than the older AZBOX's.

I have a Plus and a Elite and they are great.  The ME just does so much more other than satellite.  It is also much faster since it has more horsepower.  It also has no issues getting the RTV's on SES-2C either.  I use my ME for not just satellite but for watching video files and even some streaming.  It also has the best picture quality of any other receiver I own.

I also have a AZBOX MiniME and it is a fine receiver also.  It is just a stripped down version of the ME with less horsepower and you can only install 2 images on it verses 3 on the ME.  You also can't install a internal hard drive in it whereas you can in the ME.  It doesn't have any front display either which is a game changer to myself.  No AZBOX's are being produced anymore that do 4:2:2 and that includes the MiniME.  Whatever is out there is old stock. 

The firmware for the ME is constantly being supported by a number of teams.  The best firmware in my opinion is done by the OE alliance which makes OpenATV images.  All of the later images will automatically detect and boot up in NTSC on install. 

As far as someone saying that the MiniME is designed for the North American market that is kind of a misnomer.  They basically took AZtrino firmware and did some modifications to it.   You can put a customized satellite list into your ME and call that for North American market also.  Actually all Enigma 2 firmware now that is being supported will have every satellite from around the globe included.  You just select the ones for your area that you can view. 

Furthermore those MiniMe's for sale are tied to that customized AZtrino firmware and you can't have any other loaded in it on another boot.  If you load another firmware that so called North American firmware will be gone.  If you want it back they you will have to send your receiver in to where you purchased it.  I for one wouldn't want to be tied to someone that way.  Especially a person with numerous aliases and a record of untruths.

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Emil, thank you so much for taking the time to reply with all this info.
Boy you have my interest sparked with the original ME now.  Sure sounds to me like it's worth the effort to pick it up and learn more about it.  I'm just gun shy of blasting Firmware on these things, I just don't want to lock one up by my doing something stupid to it. But never the less it sounds to me like you (Emil) are the #1 reason to pick one up. I sure hope you won't mind my picking your brain down the line should I do so.
It's no wonder Rick thinks so highly of you.

Thank you again, I'll cut you loose for now,.
best regards
CLM
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Carol, I'm not trying to be too nebby or anything, but make sure the ME you are getting is genuine and from a reliable source.  There were a lot of reports of non-genuine / counterfeit ME's floating around.

As far as locking up the ME, it has a "recovery" feature where you can wipe it and install a new version via USB or WebIf, so chances of making a paperweight out of it are slim.

If you run into an issue that makes you pull your hair out, chances are pretty good that it's already been solved by Emil or one of the great folks here.  They have provided more than a wealth of information on this little gem.  I've had some strange issues and these guys (and gals?) were always more than happy to help out, and stayed with it until things got worked out.

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Actually there were no counterfeit ME's that I am aware of but I could be wrong. 

There definitely were some Premiums but most of them went to the South American market.  Also there was a person claiming that there was an abundance of them out there without any substantial evidence.  What's funny is that this person claimed that others were selling clones when they themselves hadn't had any stock in a long time.  Then miraculously they got stock well after they had stopped being manufactured and claimed that only they could verify that they were selling originals. 

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Thanks guys. Just curious by any chance are the individual who sold the clones currently selling on EBay.  While trying to avoid personal attacks on any seller, it would be nice to know just whom to avoid.  There is a seller on EBay selling the Mini/Me out of Canada, I was kind of wondering in the back of my mind where this person got these things.  Yet he claims to be the AZBox doctor or something like that and has an abundance of them.
Hummmmm.

Yes Mr. Hemi,  the seller of the AZ/ME is VERY RELIABLE AND here on this forum.  So I have COMPLETE Trust in him.
Thanks for the advice.

I'm still kind of interested in that that little mini/me...  I'll keep you posted what I wind up doing.
We need to put together a quick start PDF or something from this forum for the "ME" since all the info is in this forum.

Got to run
Regards
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Emil,
The "ME" that I'm getting has the original firmware: Open RSI and the 2nd version of AZ Box Trino.
I think I'll have enough problems cutting my teeth on those for starters, then I'll look into  Open ATV 3.0

Just curious who are these folks supporting the Open ATV 3. and what have you.
I now that Rick does not support the box, I'm assuming these folks who still support the ME are in Europe? Or something like that?

Regards
CLM

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The "ME" that I'm getting has the original firmware: Open RSI and the 2nd version of AZ Box Trino.
I think I'll have enough problems cutting my teeth on those for starters, then I'll look into  Open ATV 3.0

Just curious who are these folks supporting the Open ATV 3. and what have you.
I now that Rick does not support the box, I'm assuming these folks who still support the ME are in Europe? Or something like that?

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CLM



I have OpenATV 3.0 on my one ME and OpenATV 4.0 on the other one since they use different kernels.  The images on all Boots must share the same kernel.

The OE Alliance is the team that supports OpenATV firmware and they are from Europe.

Rick supports what he sells for sure but he doesn't create firmware.  The open source firmware is made by many teams and all of them are in Europe. 

The only firmware otherwise outside of Europe is basically modified AZtrino from Canada and what was basically done was take open source firmware and make some changes and then only make it available to whoever purchased a MiniMe from them.  Whatever MiniMe's he is selling were bought from Opensat before they sold the company.  They are not manufactured anymore even though that person who has many aliases claims they are.   He also claims to be the only official AZBOX dealer in North America.  Funny how you can be a self proclaimed dealer of a product in which the company is no longer in business or their products are being manufactured.  That would make him the only AZBOX dealer in the world.  That tends to raise a few red flags on truth, integrity, and honesty.  Ask yourself would you buy a product from a person that lacks all of those.

Currently the only AZBOX's on eBay that I see are Bravisssimo, New Gen+, Evo, and they were never even distributed by Opensat who used to own the AZBOX brand name.  Those are all clones.

I highly suggest you get the ME.  There are many fine versions of firmware available for it.  It is a matter of preference on what your likes and needs are for which firmware you will like best.  Loading firmware is very easy and since the ME has a recovery switch on the back  there almost is no messing it up.  Just make sure you load the right firmware for your model.

I would read up on the ME in this forum and see if its the right receiver for you.  Remember all AZBOX's that do 4:2:2 are no longer manufactured.  Rick still has a few Elites left from what I understand and yes they are 100% genuine Opensat AZBOX's.  When Opensat was still in business he was the official dealer for the USA.  That is a fact.

Emil
 

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