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MGB80

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Lightning strike very close to the house. Most inputs on Audio Video Receiver no longer work and had to replace. Azbox Elite has no HDMI audio/video out when checked with the new AVR. Likewise no composite video out. It has front panel display, appears to boot into last transponder that it was on prior to strike but does not respond to the remote. Zapped? Dead? Suggestions to revive? Replaced it with a GeoSat HD Micro.  LNB’s at dish are ok. Whew.

If dead, what do I need to do to save the many videos that are on the USB HDD that was attached? If I recall, the HDD was formatted by the Azbox in Linux. How to read and save on a Windows HDD?

BTW, I also have an Azbox ME but cannot locate the wall wart power supply.

Joe

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Have you considered trying Total Commander with DiskInternals Reader plugin? I'm not using a USB drive on my AZbox Premium but I've heard good things about this package. If it works it would be immensely faster than trying a FTP option.


http://ghisler.com/featurel.htm


http://www.ghisler.com/plugins.htm
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I'd suggest you download and burn a Puppy Linux CD or Thumbdrive. They are small, easy to use, even for a windows user, and boot directly into Puppy linux. Once there, you'll be able to operate on your USB HDD from the azbox, and copy and save files to and from windows.
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Is your Azbox connected to your LAN?  If not, try connecting it, then find the program AZrctrl.exe, which is part of that toolbox collection of programs that people use.  If you can't find it, I can send a copy.
   If the network connections on your Az aren't fried too, AZrctrl will allow you to see the Az setup screens on your computer, and control it from there too.  With it, you can enable the network services, and you can possibly use the FTP functions to transfer your files to your PC, provided that the network connections haven't been fried too. 
    If you've already enabled the FTP server on the Azbox, you don't even need the AZrctrl.exe program, just connect to the Azbox via FTP, and pull the programs back to your PC.   No need to use Linux or anything.
   However if the network has been fried on the Az, then yes, it might be easiest to mount the drive in a linux box, and transfer them to a FAT32 drive (if they aren't larger than the FAT32 limits around 4 GB) or directly to your PC's NTFS drive over network.   




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Getting a hint from MG's post, I downloaded the standalone program "Disk Internals Linux Reader". Thought I would hook up to my desktop the USB HDD that was plugged into the Elite and try to copy files over to another HDD. If successful, I could then reformat the Elite's HDD to use with the Micro. Some of the files on the Elite's HDD are pretty big. For instance, I recorded the satellite transmission of the 25th Anniversary performance of "Phantom" from London. It's in excess of 20gb. Same with "Les Miz" from the year before.

Techjunkie, you reminded me that I have an old XP machine with a Linux partition on it. Perhaps I'll dust it off and check it out.

Didn't even think about the AZrctrl. Don't know if the Elite's network functions are fried. Do know that the line itself is ok. Plugged in elsewhere and working ok. I'll check it out.

Is there another STB that will that will read the Elite's file formats? What about the Azbox ME that I have?

Thanks,

Joe
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Using the Disk Internals Linux Reader and also Linux on a flash drive, I was able to read the HDD. However, the folders show as empty. There are some jpg's of screen shots that I can view but no video files. I know that there are lots there. Could it be that you can only access them with the Elite?

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No they are recorded files not video files it is another folder on your drive
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try typing this ls -a see if they are hidden files.
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They're not hidden by the OS but are probably "hidden" in a seemingly obscure folder location.
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Try looking in "/DATA/usb1/recordfile" or "/DATA/usb2/recordfile" depending on which port your drive is plugged into. Since I have an internal drive in my Premium they're in "hdb1".

This is the location looking at their default mount points on the AZbox while it's running. Looking at the drive directly connected to your PC could change this.

If you had FTP service enabled before the problem or can enable it now a good FTP client like Core FTP Lite will let you browse the directory structure graphically.


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.....Try looking in "/DATA/usb1/recordfile" or "/DATA/usb2/recordfile" depending on which port your drive is plugged into. ....


On my Elite, they are in /DATA/usb1/sda1/recordfile  and/or  /DATA/usb1/sda1/pvrfile , depending upon how the recording was performed.  {and/or similar paths if plugged into the other port}

Also, I don't do much recording on my Elite because it doesn't work very well on HD channels, however when I have recorded things, I've always done it on FAT32 drives that I've formatted on a PC.  On one occasion I tried letting the Azbox format my drive, and it destroyed the drive.  After pulling it from the Azbox, I tried using Windows, DOS, the program that came with the drive, a Linux computer, and a couple other methods to fix that drive, and nothing worked.  That was about the first time I've ever seen a drive destroyed by software.  Since then, I've been afraid to let the Azbox format a drive.   But that's not the issue here, since the OP'er can still read at least something off the drive.  In my case the drive became completely un-usable.


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Funny you say Wejones  i had a drive pole smoked by my captiveworks 4000hd and never to be recoverd lol.
But you are absolutely right.
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Well, using Disk Internals Linux Reader, dug around some more and found a folder /media/lubuntu/93c6a14e-b89c-4f60-8a67-8e955bb69fa3\recordfile\. Everything was there, all in .ts format. Now to convert to some other format for viewing in xbmc.

Thanks to all.

Joe
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Well, using Disk Internals Linux Reader, dug around some more and found a folder /media/lubuntu/93c6a14e-b89c-4f60-8a67-8e955bb69fa3\recordfile\. Everything was there, all in .ts format. Now to convert to some other format for viewing in xbmc.

Thanks to all.

Joe

Good that you found the files, but boy that folder path is strange.  I've never used that Disk Internals Linux Reader program, but it looks to me like that the /media/lubuntu/93c6a14e-b89c-4f60-8a67-8e955bb69fa3  part of the path is a path created by the program on the computer, where it mounts the USB drive?  Because unless you're not using the stock Azbox firmware, that doesn't look anything like the directory structure I see on my Elite.  If I bring up my fat32 USB drives on my computer, all I see is the recordfile and pvrfile directories, and if I look at it via telnet or FTP on the Azbox, it looks like the path we mentioned above.   Looks like that program must be something like cygwin, and creates a linux window on the PC or something, with typical linux directories.
   I have cygwin on one of my computers, but I don't think it can mount a USB drive.  However I have a VMWARE Ubuntu on another computer, and that also comes up as a window under Windows, and I'm pretty sure that it WILL mount an external USB drive since it gives you a choice of which USB devices will be used with Windows, and which will be used by Linux.  However I don't think I've ever mounted a USB drive formatted in anything but fat32, so I don't know if it would have worked for this or not.
  Anyway, interesting.


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Likewise. I'm guessing you're right about Disk Internals. That lubuntu part is the name of a lightweight or laptop version of Ubuntu Linux. I let the Elite format the drive originally. Did it in Linux. The files are not split into small pieces. Some are 20gb plus. Takes a while to copy over to another drive in my network but Disk Internals works well. Allows you to specify which drive on the network to copy to. It also has a preview function.

BTW, XBMC reads the .ts files directly. No need to convert to another format.

Joe
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