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exSWL

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Good idea,
Tried that. 
Now I think the problem here might have to do with limitations of the Manhattan and I think that's what you ment in one of your replies.
Now AC, if you're still tuned in, Is this my problem?
Here's a station in Chicago carrying a live show.  I'm practically certian it's on the CC network...
...but I can't find the show at all on AMC-8

Now, after scanning and rescanning the TP, all I get is 128 channels.

Hmmm... 128.  Sounds like a binary number.

Sorry if I'm not so quick on the uptake, but am I not scanning in all the CC PIDS because of the way the Manhattan works (or dosen't)? Is this 128 a wall I'm hitting?

Thanks,
Mike
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You will never be able to scan all the PIDS for the larger networks...it is a limitation. That's why we published the maps for all the networks...this information, except Dial Global, came straight from the table information (DG's info came from DG's website). Look for your program in the map files...if it isn't listed then it possibly isn't being broadcast on these frequencies. Remember these signals aren't all inclusive. Some of the networks are still using the Starguide system and they may be using that system for some programs.

One other thing...give us the host and name of the show, the hours, and the network...let us look for it in the active PIDS in the time period and see if it can be spotted.

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Thank You AC.
I think I'm getting it now.
There is an ocean of PIDs.
The Stand-alone rcvs. sink into that ocean.




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I'm trying to get Hannity, Randi Rhodes, Savage, Thom Hartman, John Batchelor, Malloy, Limbaugh, Schultz, Medved.
I snagged both the Malloy and Savage show.
 
The show going to Chicago is Norman Goleman, Live from LA. I assume on Clear Channel.

 I suppose it's over my range unless I can specifically program it in... If I learn what it is.

No one answers the phone at radio stations... unless the ratings are low.
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Premiere
Limbaugh - 4110
Hannity - 4174
Randi Rhodes - Should be on 4205

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John Batchelor - 4641
Michael Medved - 4531




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In my opinion, calling radio stations or broadcasters is both unnecessary and dangerous for FTA.
If you are looking for something, please ask here.
The people on this forum are very knowledgeable and can find just about anything if it's up there.

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definitely DO NOT CALL radio stations or radio networks for feed or channel info.  It's very easy for the encryption switch to be flipped - in fact, one of the radio distributions on AMC-8 was encrypted during a testing period but is FTA now. 

It's quite easy to use the web to figure out some info - just because the program is heard on a clear channel station doesn't necessarily mean it's distributed on a Clear Channel distribution (or even in a format you can receive because Clear Channel also distributes some radio stuff in non-DVB formats, too).

Use the web to go to the site of the radio show and look at the "about us" or "affiliates" areas to try to find out who the distributor is  and that will help you figure out which radio distribution signal on satellite to look through to try to find your radio show and if  you don't find it, it may be non-DVB format, phone coupler or internet streamed to stations.









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The show going to Chicago is Norman Goleman, Live from LA. I assume on Clear Channel.


Using the web, Goleman is distributed through Compass Media Networks so you won't find it on through Clear Channel distribution.

It's on one of the other AMC-8 signals, but I don't have my notes in front of me now to know which one. Offhand, I'd guess Dial Global.

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Thanks again AC,
You got me looking at the PC receivers.  Would you reccommend for/against a USB-based receiver?

Oh... about Goldman, I found this link:
 http://www.compassmedianetworks.com/images/technical/norman_goldman_technical.pdf

The frequency (1022.75) I think is the IF for the Clear Channel TP.

So I think he is on CC, or at least he was.
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Says starguide III in the tech details section. I think those have encryption. There is a number to call for authorizing the receiver which is why I believe its encrypted.

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Oh... about Goldman, I found this link:
 http://www.compassmedianetworks.com/images/technical/norman_goldman_technical.pdf

The frequency (1022.75) I think is the IF for the Clear Channel TP.

So I think he is on CC, or at least he was.


Those are coordinates for the old Clear Channel distribution system (they have or are in the process of dropping Starguide).  I don't see that service ID in the current Clear Channel distribution and I don't see anything obvious in the current distribution that points to the Goldman feed.  I also base my previous post on the fact that other Compass Media stuff is not distributed on a Clear Channel signal.

As for USB tuner, I advise against it.  My PC may be screwy, but when tuning high datarate feeds (HD video) on my USB tuner, I get stuttering as if the USB2 inteface isn't fast enough for the datarate being sent to it from the tuner.  My USB tuner is best for me as a transport stream analyzer tool and I have an internal PCI-e card that can easily handle high datarate stuff.

The radio is low datarate so it wouldn't be a problem with a USB tuner, but if you want to keep your options topen to watching HD video, you may want to consider PCI or PCI-e cards instead.




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Dial Global and Westwood One have merged.
I wonder if there will be any changes on AMC 8?
Dial Global and Westwood One use different systems.
Westwood One uses an IP system which is difficult to listen to.

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As for USB tuner, I advise against it.  My PC may be screwy, but when tuning high datarate feeds (HD video) on my USB tuner, I get stuttering as if the USB2 inteface isn't fast enough for the datarate being sent to it from the tuner.  My USB tuner is best for me as a transport stream analyzer tool and I have an internal PCI-e card that can easily handle high datarate stuff.

I generally prefer PCI/PCIe tuners for other reasons, but I do have four USB tuners (2 x Prof 7500 and 2 x DVB World 2104C). None have problems handling high data rates, at least to about 80 Mbps (8PSK, 30000 SR, 9/10 FEC) on a several differently configured computers (Windows and Linux) using motherboards up to about 6-7 years old. Perhaps you have a bottleneck that should be addressed.
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So how does one play the radio channels?  I'm using TSReader and am trying to play 24/7 Comedy radio on 3951 V 10417.




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is it possible to play all these channels?  if so, how?  i'm having difficulty playing the radio channels with TSReader.  Any help would be appreciated.

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