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Keep in mind the satellites at 67°W are intended more to cover Latin America, so their footprints only reach the southern portion of the United States. As shown in the FCC filings, AMC-6 at 67°W will have a similar footprint as AMC-3 had at that location, and AMC-3 at 72°W will have a similar footprint as AMC-6 had at that location.

I also suspect AMC-6 might not be at 67°W for very long. The very next satellite SES plans to launch is SES-10, which had been intended to replace AMC-3 and AMC-4 at 67°W this year, but those plans got delayed until next year due to SpaceX Falcon 9 explosion.
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Just got myself the linkbox 9000i, wonder what size dish is needed to receive 16apsk?
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10' minimum that's what I use in Ca.
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And here is what I see active at 67w right now.

11979 H 9999
11719 V 28888
11759 V 28888
11799 V 28888
11839 V 28888
11879 V 28888
11919 V 28888

Curious if we see any sports feeds now that AMC 6 has made its way to 67w


HN, thanks for these FRs. I guestamanted where 67 was and I was only a few clicks off to the east. Thanks again.

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Can you lock those tp`s with a SR of 28888 in Indiana Jim?
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Can you lock those tp`s with a SR of 28888 in Indiana Jim?


86 per cent on the Linkbox.

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That is pretty doggone good Jim.You are out of the footprint.You and Bill have that fine 10foot solid Ch Master tuned very well.Myself I am on the edge of the footprint but still lockable with a 1.2m Ch Master..My 1.0m Ch Master will not lock it.
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I entered and scanned all of them just to see what they were. They were all scrambled US programming like you would get on Dish and Direct. The Horizontal FR was the only one that wouldn't lock, it just bounced back and forth. The Verticals were good and strong.
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Hey Jim, it sounds like I may not be in the footprint of AMC 6 at 67 west.  But out of curiosity, do you use a Motorola DSR to move your dish?  Curious how many clicks 67 might be from 72 on my DSR 922.
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Hi Pops,

Here goes:

I have a Venture 24 inch motor and arm. I can get everything from 55 west to 139 west. Years ago I figured out that the 2 degree spacing between satellites is 34 clicks on the 922. The difference between the old AMC6 location and the new location is 5 degrees. So I added 34+34+17 and determined that the difference between the old and new location was 85 clicks. I then went to the old AMC6 location, and subtracted 85 from that dish position number (I have my 922 set up to subtract for east and add for west) and moved the dish to that location. I then entered the FRs and SRs that Hockey Nut supplied into the Linkbox and started to bump the dish. For some reason I was thinking that I might be to far east so I starting bumping back to the west. I didn't record how many clicks I bumped back, but it wasn't many before those FRs popped on at 86 per cent. I then stored the new location into the 922. There is nothing on AMC6 at this time so technically you are on AMC4 at the 67 degree location. HockeyNut says I am at the top border of the AMC4 footprint and he was surprised that I got them at such a strong signal. He complimented BillinIndy on how well he aligned the 10 foot Channel Master when we installed it.

This is as clear as mud, I hope you understand it. Some other members might have a simpler method, but this is what I came up with a long time ago and it has been fairly reliable.

Good luck.

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Jim, I totally understand your methodology.  Wonder if the DSR-922 clicks between satellites can vary depending on your dish location and the satellites you're aiming at.  In other words, are the number of clicks to go 2 degrees from a user's southern-most satellite the same as the number of clicks needed to move 2 degrees between two very eastern or western birds.  

I have done the math here too, and felt that 20 clicks on my DSR-922 equaled 2 degrees.  In any case, it sounds like I need to move farther east than I have so far.  Even though my neighbor cut down their weeping willow a few years ago allowing me to see 72 west nicely, I still have lots of other trees to my east.  This time of year when the leaves have fallen off I try to see if I can get any sats east of 72, so I'll keep messing around and see if I can get anything C or Ku on 67.

I see on lyngsat that there are a couple of Star One birds at 70 west.  Wonder if I can see any of that from the west coast?  

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I don't really know, but I have found my method to be pretty accurate no matter where in the arc I am at. I am using a different 922 than the one I figured this out with and it was dead accurate. The one I have now seems to vary on the clicks the farther east I go and that's why I had to bump back west a bit.

You mentioned Star One. The first time I tried this I attempted to find that satellite and was going to go west from it since it is at 65. I figured bumping 2 degree west would be simpler than 5 east. I couldn't raise anything on Star One. Then I discovered that I couldn't raise anything in between IntelSat 21 at 58 and AMC9. Then I realized that HockeyNut mentioned the footprints and I am willing to bet that we are out of the footprint for 61 through 65. I get IntelSat 34 at 55 and IntelSat 21 at 58 fine.

When we lived in town our neighbor had a 6 foot privacy fence about 8 feet away from the west limit and there was a row of giant trees about two lots west. To my surprise AMC7 and 8 came in fine. When we came out here that was the first thing I checked was the tree line. We own some woods on the east but the trees are far enough back and the dish angle misses them. On the west there is nothing for about a 16th of a mile. So I am in good shape when it comes to that. I have always said if you can get everything that's available to you, you are getting your money's worth out of your equipment. At the old house I got from 72 to 139 with no problems and that was all I was suppose to get. Out here getting 55 and 58 is bonus for me.

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Originally Posted by Hockeynut
And here is what I see active at 67w right now.

11979 H 9999
11719 V 28888
11759 V 28888
11799 V 28888
11839 V 28888
11879 V 28888
11919 V 28888

Curious if we see any sports feeds now that AMC 6 has made its way to 67w


I'm also seeing:

11900 H 30000 (AOL Service)  ACM/VCM
12060 H 30000 (AOL Service)  ACM/VCM
12100 H 30000 (AOL Service)  ACM/VCM

I notice in the NIT 11960 V 28888 is listed, but I don't see any signal there.

I would not expect to see any sports feeds there.  
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The transfer from AMC 3 to AMC 6 at 67 degrees West has occurred.

AMC 3 is on the move.
It's currently at 68.5 degrees West, moving a little over half a degree per day West.
It should be at 72 degrees West in about a week.

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Thanks for those updates Photoman.  Will certainly be curious to see what ends up on the relocated AMC 3.  Also appreciate the active feed updates on AMC 6 even though I am probably out of its footprint.  
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