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Perhaps I should say "a ditch in time" meaning one needs get their sat wires under the grass to protect them from chewing small animals and lawn mowers and in my case a brand new weed whacker. That new machine lasted about one hour of service before all the sat wires I keep getting wound up around  the string spool finally killed the lower bearing. When the bearing stuck it spun the outer race way which over heated the plastic housing which let the lower shaft lean over which took out the plastic gear on that shaft. In summary the new machine was "toast" while just starting out with its second string refill.

A couple months back I had to make a splice in that sat dishes control wires because of cutting wild weeds in the area. Now with lots of bare wire strands in view I need to rewire the dish before trying to put power on the dish control lines. Oh well, old people and power tools can be a bad mix. So a stitch or a ditch in time to put those wires into would have saved that new weed eating string machine and also would have saved my sat wires. This morning I noticed a small ground squirrel  (chip - munk) looking around for a chew toy. He had his eyes on my bare and already damages sat wires. Perhaps I need fire up the electric fencer to give the little guy a "hot chew toy" to wrap his wet lips around?

My chickens are digging in the chicken yard, so wonder if they can be trained to dig a ditch for the sat wires?

 

 


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Re:  help from the chickens, I think if a guy made a little trench along the path the wires needed to take and filled it with grain and then maybe partially covered it over with dirt, the chickens would come along, follow along the trail of grain, scratching/unearthing the grain and eat it.  When the chickens were finished digging up all the grain, voila! -- there'd you have your ditch for the sat wires.  (Interestingly enough, the ditch would probably look quite similar to the trench the grain had been buried in earlier.  Hope this helps!)
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It may be faster to just take the blades off of one side of my rear tine tiller and settle for a very shallow trench. There may be "chicken labor laws" which prevent me from "forced working hours" which would be needed to make a 150 foot long ditch to hide wires in. If I can break up the dirt and roots with a power tool the rest of the job it easy. I recently noticed a U Tube video where a person needed a water line trench in very rocky and tree filled hill side. He got the job done with a large air compressor by blasting out the soil around the rocks and tree roots. He saved most of the trees and never had to worry about a big machine tipping over on the steep hill side. I do also have an old single shear plow blade from 60 years back and the small two wheel garden tractor from that time period. I still have that 60 year old garden tractor but the tires are far from useable now. Perhaps my 4 wheeler could pull that small plow? Too many sat dish poles to get very close using my 4 wheel drive truck. Too cheap to just go and rent a real trenching machine when just 4 inches below the grass is deep enough to get the job done. I am sure chicken slave labor laws are out there.  
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I have good news to report about how to dig a shallow trench in the yard to keep ones sat wires all safe from lawn mowers and weed whackers and other yard animals which chew or peck. No, not via trained chickens but with a rear tine tiller and the blades removed from one side so less grass damage. Of course long term using the tiller this way could put extra load and wear on the output shaft bearings but for the 150 feet of trench I needed it is worth the risk to just get the trench dug out easily and very fast. A job I always hated and put off for months and years just got very simple to do. Of course now I have a way to put in  power and video chicken cameras out to the chicken house also. Three jobs soon done all in one trench with of course separate conduits for all the different types of signals and power feeds involved.


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Today I made the commitment as I pulled all my sat coax wires and control wires out of the south side hole in the house wall. I replaced the outside junction box with a larger one which is 8 inches by 8 inches and 4 inches deep. I have now a power feed line out to the chicken yard and now ready to finally get 4 sat dish control wires and coax under the grass and through this new 2 inch wide hole in the house wall. It will be a grand day to finally complete this task. I may even get some camera wires finally installed via that new enlarged hole in the house wall. It was the tiller ditch that got me moving along again on this over due work.
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While the trench turned out to be the easy part because of the tiller digging pulling all the coax and control wires remained to be an issues because of the size of conduit used. Problem being putting old ribbon cable which was lumpy and bumpy because of its uneven size. Any way I am over half way done. That is until I collect any more worth mounting sat dishes. Liquid dish soap made pulling in wire doable. My original very old ribbon cable only had a single RG59 coax and I replaced this with two new RG6's to every dish. I have in storage two of the dual C and Ku feeds which would like to have 4 coax cables but I am saving them for that "really, really" big dish if I ever snag a couple of them. There is no way to plan ahead for "what might be" in the future. (I just replaced a one inch hole in the wall with a 2.3 inch wide hole) To reduce clutter in the house I am moving all the coax switching closer to  that "new hole in the wall" location. Still all the control wires need to end up where the Research Concepts units are setting. Perhaps the six motorized dishes out in the yard----might be enough! (I have some how gotten 9 RC 2000 units)
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Finally have half of the remaining sat dish wires into the new hole in the house. My goal is to get all the sat wires "under the grass" before the time comes when they "finally put old Bob" under the grass. As one gets closer that 2.3 inch hole gets smaller and hard to fill with coax.

The same is true for my Dish 500 pie pan as one can only get so many chickens in the pan at the same time. (they love sleeping in that Dish 500 sat dish)

This location was a prior cat door into the back side of the house. I should have left the hole open at the size of the cat to put sat wires through. If I had left that cat door for a chicken door those chickens could have brought their eggs right into the kitchen for me. (forget I changed out my kitchen for an FTA room--never mind)

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As the last rays of sun light faded into the western sky and the last chicken faded from view and settled into the chicken coop for the night time sleep I put that third sat dish cable now in conduit into the trench. Just one more  motorized dish to get wired up and stuck into the trench. Then no more wires in the grass to weed whack around or trip over all the time. I remember back over 30 years ago it took me three years to get then dish number 2's wires under the grass. That is now the same pole which I again still need to finish and get buried. It now holds my best three motor Ku 1.8 meter dish. I may take a day off and have a beer when these 6 dishes finally have all wires buried and connected up to Research Concepts controllers.
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After many days of delays I got back on the sat dish rewiring project. The last currently mounted 1.8 meter three motor Ku dish finally has all of  its wires into conduit and placed into the still open trench. It got a fresh coat of paint on the rf side of the dish. Looks almost like a new machine now. Hope to finish it off in the morning by connecting up all the wires for the three motor to a proper Research Concepts 2000 controller.

I still have two green houses to get finished before the weather turns cold. The chicken sat shack now holds just 14 warm birds with only one of them a rooster. The first 17 eggs have spilled out so  all  it good there too.

Todays down the street garage sale netted two old out board boat motors and a small electric mini bike. Oh well, a guy needs stuff to do. The sat dishes are still on the front burner to get finished first.

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Today I pulled into the back house wall the last of the wires and coax for the 6 mounted motorized dishes currently set up in the dish farm. I started to put the Ku dish wires through the hollow lnb arm mounting and a large family of wasps had other ideas about their current living space. Perhaps in the morning when I can "run faster" I will try that again.

You can see I used separate conduits for each separate dish run. Two when out to the Ku 3 motor dish. I thought about one main run line and then just tap off ports from there to each dish. This method I used looked to be the easy way but still some wires and coax stuck in the tubes when very hot from mid day sun light. But job done if I have not left out any needed wires.

While I still have the open ditch I need to install the chicken cams and other security camera feeds. That 2.3 inch hole is getting very full now. I need to label all of the wires while I can still remember where they go. It may have been more simple to just get cable tv via their one coax system! this is just part of what "having a hobby" is all about. The next owner of this house will say what the heck was that guy thinking? He should have just got cable tv! 

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The next owner of this house will say what the heck was that guy thinking? He should have just got cable tv! 

Clearly we can already tell the next guy is a small thinker.  Plus there is such a thing as a point of no return and I think you passed that so long ago that it isn't even funny.  Good work, boblop!

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Indeed "way past the point, so no returning now"-------

Over the past 9 days my proud chickens have returned to me 20 eggs. As soon as I get to  "full speed egg production" and all that money comes rolling in I hope to buy a new sat receiver. Then the chicken coop with friends can have one or two of the old sat receivers.

Putting all those wires into and onto the Research Concept 2000 units will be the easy part of all this.
Indeed, point of no return happened two or three years ago. I am always "slow" to get wires under the grass. I am just glad and very happy I have lived to see this day arrive. Just one day before the sun goes dark. Now the question is "where" if I get any more dishes will I run those wires? Of course the question of more dishes is just a given that '"it will happen"!

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While I still have plenty of work left to get done before winter, this morning I got all the wires connected on the 3 motor dish without getting any wasps stinging my older body. Pulling the coax and skew control wires I dislodged the "Wasp Central" living quarters hidden in the dish lnb arm. Only one lone wasp buzzed me as I did this.

Still plenty of work behind the heavy equipment rack in the dust and the dark where likely spiders are awaiting me to find them. I am never bothered by such but some folks can get ill from spider bites. After 4 months of chickens chewing on me I am now immune to all that.

One job still to  do is create a good map of all the wires and the colors so any future trouble shooting issues will be easy. Still hope the warm weather lets me put fresh paint on the other 5 dishes in the farm. That wasp nest was plugging up the whole lnb dish arm metal tube. Those two combined pieces of wasp nest measured about 7 inches long. Just one of the hazards of sat dish repair.

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I spent the afternoon finally getting all the wires through three holes in my living room hard wood floor so now all 6 of my mounted and motorized back yard dish cables are finally all laying around all over the tv room floor. What a mess. But all of the wires out in the yard are below the grass line and in conduit. 

Like after a long work period when they build a big ship and then break a bottle of wine over her bow when she is launched I feel the need to "break something" over the corner of my house now that all the wires are inside and under the grass. All I have to break are a few more "new eggs" I get every day from the chickens. So an egg in a sock it will be. Still need to test all before putting the dirt back in the trenches. Would not want to  dig it all back up again if I need a couple more wires some where.

As luck will be today I got 6 eggs and I have 6 dishes all wired up so that must be "a sign" to break that half dozen treats. So yes it has gotten way out of control several dishes ago. (no chickens were harmed or used to dig the trenches or pull the wires)


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Nope, I was wrong. I went out in the dark with a flash light to check on every thing and there in the grass out side of the chicken coop was egg number 7. I am sure this is a sign that I need to put up dish number 7. Just when you think it is all done -----oh well I got more coax and small wire to  use up. I got more poles so just a hole in the dirt and another hole in the house for the coax. I am eating three breakfasts every day now just to keep up with the out put from the hens.
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