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HDorBust

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I searched the forum and I didn't see any recent activity.

Now that I have a 4K TV, the 4K receiver is the next logical step, any available in the U.S. yet?


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There are a number of demo channels and an occasional 4K backhaul for Directv.
I'm not sure about receivers, but you can view 4K feeds using a computer and sat card.
Results are not great as it takes a substantial computer to view properly.

NASA
AMC 18
3760 V 28068
Program 104

SES 3
4140 V 30000
DVB-S2 8psk
5/6 FEC
Pilot ON
UHD1
Hi4K
Fashion One 4K

Galaxy 13
4168 H 10097
DVB-S2 8psk
2/3 FEC
Pilot Off
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I purchased two DVB-S2 receivers that are advertised to play 4K.

The U4 Quad is based on the HiSilicon 3796 and it can do 30FPS 8-Bit UHD, but unfortunately it does not fully work for either 60FPS or 10-bit High Dynamic Range. Also it doesn't let you record UHD

The K1+ uses an AMLogic chipset and can do 60FPS and 10-bit UHD. But the DVB software is not very well made, and that is an understatement.

The K1+ is relatively inexpensive, and if you have to have UHD now it might get you by until something better comes along.

At this point I think our best hope is to wait until a HiSilicon 3798C unit becomes available. Also, most of the current UHD content that I have seen are demo loops. The most interesting was Golf in UHD a couple of months ago.





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The Vu+Solo 4k looks to be a nice unit..Hard to justify 400 bucks for it tho.
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The Vu+Solo 4k looks to be a nice unit..Hard to justify 400 bucks for it tho.


But you really can for 4K, Jeff take a look at what they stuff into for Ram, Flash memory, CPU, Lan card, etc and they are not going with junk compared to the stuff from China which is just a cheap Kodi box with a DVB-S tuner.

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Very nice built unit they surely did not skimp on quality... And the big BUT.If it did 4:2:2 and 16,32 APSK I would already have 1.For someone looking just for a 4k receiver ya cant go wrong.1 other nice feature is its a dual tuner.
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Receivers--AZMe,AZPlus,AZElite,Icecrypt S1600 HD,Pansat 9500,VU Solo2 SE,Octagon SF4008 UHD 4K,Prof 7500,TBS 6982.

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  Seems like lack of 16APSK would be important since if I remember correctly, I think those DirecTV feeds were 16APSK weren't they??

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Japan plans to broadcast the 2020 Tokyo Olympics in 8k, based upon the idea that any resolution over 8k would be undetectable by the naked eye. Given this requires the production of 8k recorders, sets, broadcasting standards et al is quite remarkable, especially given 4k has been out for years and the official broadcast/blu-ray specifications are quite recent.
 
Really would like to try 4k, but given the few true 4k sources available plan to wait for the 8k train since it's not that far away and see what standard "wins". Besides, 4k receivers just aren't there yet and the broadcast standards winner may be what we have given the significantly increased bandwidth required for 4/8k.

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Thanks, the VU+ Solo 4K looks like a great unit.

I found the following review from last Fall:
http://linux-tv.com/receiver/vu-solo-4k/

So from where can one purchase it here in the U.S.?  I don't see it on Rick's web-site.

Thanks again,
-Dave


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Quote:
Originally Posted by photoman76
There are a number of demo channels and an occasional 4K backhaul for Directv.
I'm not sure about receivers, but you can view 4K feeds using a computer and sat card.
Results are not great as it takes a substantial computer to view properly.

NASA
AMC 18
3760 V 28068
Program 104

SES 3
4140 V 30000
DVB-S2 8psk
5/6 FEC
Pilot ON
UHD1
Hi4K
Fashion One 4K

Galaxy 13
4168 H 10097
DVB-S2 8psk
2/3 FEC
Pilot Off



There's another UHD feed at:

47.5W Circular

4179 L 30000

UHD
FashionOne-4K

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Hi,

I have tested a couple of units advertised as able to play 4K and they both had issues and would be more trouble than what it would be worth.

I continue to look Vu Solo units, but as already mentioned above, the price makes it have limited appeal to many users.

Am always looking for something to add, but has to not only do 4K, has to have a decent blind scan and at least do MPEG2 and MPEG4 and 16 and 32APSK.  Would be nice if it could also to 4:2:2.

All of this and still needs a competitive price.  Will just keep looking and maybe something will be produced soon.

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Just to add one more to the list:

61w
11135H/30000
Hispasat 4K

That one is usually there, but not always.


And don't forget the ever-changing HEVC mux here:

30w
11724V/30000

No 4K channels, but all h.265 SD or HD, and with content that doesn't appear anywhere else: 360 TuneBox, DocuBox HD, FashionBox, FastNFunBox, FilmBox Art House, FilmBox Russia, and NewsMax TV.  Plus, oddly, a few Luken channels.  This mux changes often - YMMV.

Rick, I absolutely agree that any 4K receiver has to be able to do at least 16APSK.  The junkbox I'm using to receive the above is 16APSK-challenged [tongue]

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...  The junkbox I'm using to receive the above is 16APSK-challenged [tongue] ...

Are you referring the the K1+ or some other AMLogic S905 unit? If its anything like mine, I agree that its a junkbox. If it did 16APSK and had decent software it might have a future.
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It's the K1+.  It's OK, but pretty deaf to SRs below 5000 when blindscanning.
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Hi,

I have tested a couple of units advertised as able to play 4K and they both had issues and would be more trouble than what it would be worth.

I continue to look Vu Solo units, but as already mentioned above, the price makes it have limited appeal to many users.

Am always looking for something to add, but has to not only do 4K, has to have a decent blind scan and at least do MPEG2 and MPEG4 and 16 and 32APSK.  Would be nice if it could also to 4:2:2.

All of this and still needs a competitive price.  Will just keep looking and maybe something will be produced soon.


Thanks Rick for continuing the search. 
As you have found, all the ones out there seemed to have issues that have not been resolved.

As for the Vu Solo units, my issue with it would be any type of support.
If there was some support for it or future upgrades then it may hold some hope, but like you said the price would turn many off.

When you find something I hope you give it a good shout out!




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